[sword-devel] Websites (was: Video tutorials)

Greg Hellings greg.hellings at gmail.com
Tue Apr 3 12:19:49 MST 2012

I lack any artistic or design ability whatsoever. However, as a
full-time web developer and now even being a full-time Java web
developer (as the site is currently written in) I am willing to do the
technical implementation of a site if someone wants to whip up a
wireframe and site tree structure that people agree on.

I wish any such adventurous person the best of luck with the last
phrase in the preceding sentence.


On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
> To second what Greg said and to defend the last person who attempted to meet
> all audiences with our website (not me), if you hit:
> http://crosswire.org
> Click Software
> Click Windows
> You get a list software for Windows.
> We can't necessarily have a "Download Now" button as most projects have
> chosen not to host their development work on CrossWire's server and I won't
> believe they would (nor blame them for not doing so) keep updated Windows
> and Mac packages in some central CrossWire download facility. We've had hard
> enough time getting news reports from everyone.  Other OSs don't use a
> 'download now' from a website concept, but get their software from a package
> manager (Android, iOS, Redhat, Ubuntu, etc.)
> I'm not amiss to giving other Windows frontends more prominence, but it's
> hard to decide how: BPBible, Bible Desktop, Bibletime, Xiphos, XulSWORD
> (listed ASCIIbetically) all run fine on Windows and complaining that
> everyone only downloads BibleCS because it is listed first would translate
> to a valid complaint for any 2-n listed project.
> I too am generally frustrated with both our wiki and our main website. The
> wiki has so much misinformation and bad examples and is anything but
> concise, and the main website is generally unattractive and doesn't have the
> latest bits of useful information which are on the wiki.
> I'm not blaming anyone, as Greg has said, no one wants this.  I very seldom
> take the time to read the wiki with the intent to fix things.  I end up
> finding them when I intend to refer someone to the wiki and read the
> information I'm about to link to.  Some who edit the wiki don't have the
> history or expertise.  Many who have the history or expertise don't have
> time to edit the wiki.  It's a vicious circle.  Everyone has good
> intentions.
> I'm open for suggestions, but every couple years we go through this
> iteration of a wave of frustration about our websites and someone steps up
> and revamps some things, and no one is happy and we move on for another
> couple years.
> Troy
> On 04/03/2012 07:22 PM, Barry Drake wrote:
>> On 03/04/12 17:58, Matěj Cepl wrote:
>>> I am not a Windows user, so just a question ... what's better Xiphos
>>> or Bibletime for Windows? (maybe we should list both as to avoid a
>>> civil war, if it is point of contest)
>> Both look virtually the same under Windows as under your favourite
>> Linux. Neither is 'better', it's purely a matter of which one fits the
>> way the user works. Xiphos fits my work style very well, but until
>> Xiphos has full av11n support (quite soon now), I am mainly using
>> Bibletime. I wouldn't say either is better, just different. BibleDesktop
>> is another good alternative ... I'd really like to see the web-page
>> encourage the would-be user to try them all and settle for the one that
>> suits them. Maybe we could list the main features of each. I seem to
>> remember a wiki some years ago that attempted to do just that. It will
>> be well out of date by now.
>> Features like the ability to set up several free-floating windows with
>> different text in each, is a feature I have used a lot. It only exists
>> in Xiphos. When preparing a sermon, it is neat to be able to have each
>> of the readings for the day in places where I can move them about ....
>> Others with different uses will really want some of the main features of
>> one of the other programs ... it's horses for courses really.
>> We could also stress the fact that you only need one collection of
>> modules for all the installed front-ends.
>> God bless, Barry.
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