[sword-devel] Making Import Easier
Troy A. Griffitts
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Tue Apr 7 15:25:20 MST 2009
Thank you for your encouragement that your sons don't hate me :) My
truly sincere apologies for grouping so many people together into the
same lump and firing off a list of my frustrations, impugning everyone
to everything in my list. I understand, accept, and relate to their
frustration. I am glad to hear that my suspicion is incorrect that many
in that 'lump' despise working together with us-- at least that your
sons don't feel that way.
Please accept my apologies. Looking forward to a cooperative,
enjoyable, and profitable relationship moving forward.
Mark Morgan wrote:
> I have never written to this forum before, but your post made me feel I
> should. My only involvement previously has been in reading posts since
> July last year.
> In your comment about your work on the project having become a burden, I
> feel sympathy for you in this and hope it can be otherwise again.
> However, some points you made need answering, as some will have received
> wrong and damaging impressions. My comments are below.
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org
> <mailto:scribe at crosswire.org>> wrote:
> Matthew Talbert wrote:
> As to why the current documentation isn't better, or why there
> more modules in source format to look at,
> It's because people don't step up and write the documentation. I'd
> love to include the man pages from Jonathan Marsden in SVN. Thanks
> Jonathan, for stepping up and trying to solve this area where we're
> it's essentially CrossWire
> policy to keep it so that average users can't create modules easily
> This is inappropriate.
> Matthew, many on the Xiphos, and BPBible teams,
> Most of your team members have unsubscribed from sword-devel because
> of various reasons. In general, I understand it is because you
> don't like the way things are done around here; you don't think
> things are done efficiently enough-- whatever.
> You all really have just turned my love for this ministry into a
> burden the past 6 months.
> I would appreciate it if you would just please either leave or stop
> instigating fights.
> I'm tired of the private emails instead of to sword-devel, because
> you are making statements by unsubscribing. The communication with
> other projects is just being hurt. I've felt a real sense of hatred
> from your teams. I've done everything possible to dissuade those
> feelings. I'm sorry things aren't more efficient around here, but
> it's an open project and members of your teams have commit access to
> fix bugs. I've called for volunteers to run stable branches (if a
> stable release is your latest complaint), and no one steps up. This
> is open source volunteer work. I'm sorry. But I'd like to ask one
> last time. Please be part of the community and fix things, and be
> encouraging and loving, and make this ministry enjoyable for
> everyone, or please just move on.
> - You mention the BPBible team, of which I have some knowledge because
> it is written entirely (except for the translations!) by three of my
> sons who, incidentally, are all still subscribed to sword-devel. In 5
> or 10 years, they may forgive me for sending this! :)
> - You mention calling for volunteers to run stable branches and suggest
> that no-one has stepped up. Jonathan Morgan offered to help with
> building a stable release back in February. Not an offer of full
> support for a stable branch at that stage, but maybe it could have led
> to that if the offer had been accepted.
> - You seem to imply that members of BPBible team have been given commit
> access but that they do nothing to fix bugs. You know that Ben has been
> making quite a few changes and bug fixes to the SWORD library recently.
> You seemed appreciative, which was nice.
> - Sadly, you also mention a sense of hatred coming from the BPBible
> team. As I have been involved with quite a few discussions on the topic
> of The SWORD Project in our home, I can assure you that those
> discussions do not show any sense of hatred. There certainly is a sense
> of frustration at times when their desires for BPBible do not match the
> desires of those managing the release schedule of The SWORD Project -
> but I'm sure you would understand that frustration as you clearly feel
> it in reverse.
> I would be happier if some of the responses I have read on this forum
> had been aimed more at building up God's people. Some are delightfully
> encouraging, but others are not. I'm sorry to have to say this, and
> pray we can do better in future.
> I know nothing about those who work on Xiphos, but I hope the above
> shows clearly that including BPBible in your criticisms was not well
> based in fact.
> May God continue to bless your work in this and the work of all who try
> to help others read and live his word.
> God bless.
> "All I have seen teaches me to trust the creator for all I have not seen"
> Ralph Waldo Emerson
> "Have you not known? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God,
> the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary;
> his understanding is unsearchable." Isaiah 40:28
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