[bt-devel] Proposed change for BibleTime

Daniel Owens dcowens76 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 15 07:04:24 MST 2018 

Gary,

I renamed my sword folder, as you suggested, and installed some modules. 
That was the source of the problem. I have made a few of my own modules 
over the years, some of which may not work, and that may have been the 
source of the crash?

I knew I must be forgetting something. I just now tested auto scrolling. 
It worked fine. The one thing I discovered from a user experience 
perspective is that I felt like I needed a stop button so that if I was 
scrolling at a higher speed I could quickly stop it. Maybe there already 
is a shortcut for that. I wonder if at some point it would be helpful to 
have buttons on the window for scroll down or up and stop. Or a 
right-click menu button? Just a thought.

I am delighted to test on a Mac. Off-topic: Did you do something to 
improve BT's display on Retina? It seems sharper than it used to. It 
looks really good! Maybe that happened awhile ago, but it was a fun 
discovery this morning.

After testing on the Mac in all the same ways that I tested in Windows, 
I discovered that it started up just fine, even with all of my modules 
that caused the crash on Windows. I am not sure how to explain that. But 
everything worked. I did get a crash while scrolling quickly through the 
Abbott-Smith lexicon, but I was not able to repeat the crash. Unhappily 
I did not capture the feedback from OSX before the program restarted. If 
it happens again, I will capture it before reopening.

This is excellent. I will just keep using this version and let you know 
if I have any troubles.

Daniel

On 10/14/18 5:12 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> Thanks for the report. I also have seen a crash during install, but 
> did not capture the details. I will try this again. You did not 
> mention how you avoided the crash on startup you previously had. Also, 
> did you try the auto scroll?
>
> If you are able, could  you also test a MacOS version. It will be the 
> first time I have build BibleTime on a Mac, but it seems correct to 
> me. If you can test it download it from here:
>
> http://sourcearchives.com/BibleTime-2.11.2_xx3.dmg
>
> Gary
>
>
> On 10/14/18 12:42 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>> Gary,
>>
>> I tried out the new build in every way I could think, checking all 
>> types of modules (except glossaries), trying out parallel works, 
>> including different languages Bibles and commentaries, etc. I 
>> particularly was interested in trying ESV with Hebrew in parallel, 
>> scrolling from Malachi to Matthew, which Hebrew would not have. I was 
>> not able to cause any crashes, except occasionally when installing 
>> modules, after modules finished installing, BT would quit. But that 
>> was not in every case, and I would not think that was at all related 
>> to the continuous scrolling.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On 10/10/18 5:08 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>> On the previous message I told you the wrong directory to find the 
>>> "Sword" directory.
>>>
>>> On your command window type:
>>>
>>>         echo %APPDATA%
>>>
>>> It will probably say:
>>>
>>>        C:\Users\garyh\AppData\Roaming
>>>
>>> This is where the "Sword" dir is. Sorry for the confusion.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/10/2018 12:55 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>> Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> So, I believe you saw this message in your splash screen.
>>>>
>>>>         "Initializing the SWORD engine..."
>>>>
>>>> That was the last message? This puts the code in "initBackend" 
>>>> which deals with Sword and the works you have installed.
>>>>
>>>> The "Sword" directory in your home directory contains the works. 
>>>> Could you renamed "Sword" to something else like "Sword.save". 
>>>> After restarting BibleTime, if it starts up the "Sword" directory 
>>>> would be recreated.  You would have to download some works to be 
>>>> able to go farther.
>>>>
>>>> If BibleTime does start after renaming the directory, perhaps you 
>>>> could zip up the "Sword.save" and send it to me so I could try it 
>>>> on my computer.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/10/2018 11:36 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>> Yes, so I checked to make sure I had installed the correct version 
>>>>> by reinstalling it. Then I ran in debug mode, but the debug file, 
>>>>> which was created today, was an empty text file. That's odd, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/10/18 1:16 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The newer vesion has "xx2" in the name instead of "xxx". Are you 
>>>>>> sure you installed the correct one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If yes, please start BibleTime from an command window in debug mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     cd \Program Files (x86)\BibleTime\bin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     .\BibleTime.exe  --debug
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After it hangs look in your home directory for a file named 
>>>>>> "BibleTime Debug.txt". It may have some clues about this issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/10/2018 11:03 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>>>> Gary,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It still hangs in the splash screen while initiating the sword 
>>>>>>> engine. I tried completely removing the BibleTime folder, which 
>>>>>>> was left after the uninstall. Still, it hangs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/8/18 7:26 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I found that during startup BibleTime was looking for the 
>>>>>>>> javascript directory in its installation. We are no longer 
>>>>>>>> using javascript and the directory does not exist. Sorry for 
>>>>>>>> that problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a corrected download for you. It also fixes a couple of 
>>>>>>>> minor issues I found.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://http://sourcearchives.com/BibleTime-2.11.2_xx2-win32.exe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> btGary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/08/2018 11:28 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yo
>>>>>>>>
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