[bt-devel] Proposed change for BibleTime

Gary Holmlund gary.holmlund at gmail.com
Mon Oct 15 07:27:26 MST 2018 

Daniel,

The "space" bar acts as a pause toggle for auto scroll. In the menus 
under "View/Scroll" you will see the 3 actions and their shortcuts. The 
shortcuts can be changed using "Settings/Config".

As for Retina, I suspect the newer versions of Qt are the source of the 
improvement.

Thanks for the feedback,

Gary


On 10/15/18 7:04 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
> Gary,
>
> I renamed my sword folder, as you suggested, and installed some 
> modules. That was the source of the problem. I have made a few of my 
> own modules over the years, some of which may not work, and that may 
> have been the source of the crash?
>
> I knew I must be forgetting something. I just now tested auto 
> scrolling. It worked fine. The one thing I discovered from a user 
> experience perspective is that I felt like I needed a stop button so 
> that if I was scrolling at a higher speed I could quickly stop it. 
> Maybe there already is a shortcut for that. I wonder if at some point 
> it would be helpful to have buttons on the window for scroll down or 
> up and stop. Or a right-click menu button? Just a thought.
>
> I am delighted to test on a Mac. Off-topic: Did you do something to 
> improve BT's display on Retina? It seems sharper than it used to. It 
> looks really good! Maybe that happened awhile ago, but it was a fun 
> discovery this morning.
>
> After testing on the Mac in all the same ways that I tested in 
> Windows, I discovered that it started up just fine, even with all of 
> my modules that caused the crash on Windows. I am not sure how to 
> explain that. But everything worked. I did get a crash while scrolling 
> quickly through the Abbott-Smith lexicon, but I was not able to repeat 
> the crash. Unhappily I did not capture the feedback from OSX before 
> the program restarted. If it happens again, I will capture it before 
> reopening.
>
> This is excellent. I will just keep using this version and let you 
> know if I have any troubles.
>
> Daniel
>
> On 10/14/18 5:12 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>> Daniel,
>>
>> Thanks for the report. I also have seen a crash during install, but 
>> did not capture the details. I will try this again. You did not 
>> mention how you avoided the crash on startup you previously had. 
>> Also, did you try the auto scroll?
>>
>> If you are able, could  you also test a MacOS version. It will be the 
>> first time I have build BibleTime on a Mac, but it seems correct to 
>> me. If you can test it download it from here:
>>
>> http://sourcearchives.com/BibleTime-2.11.2_xx3.dmg
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/18 12:42 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>> Gary,
>>>
>>> I tried out the new build in every way I could think, checking all 
>>> types of modules (except glossaries), trying out parallel works, 
>>> including different languages Bibles and commentaries, etc. I 
>>> particularly was interested in trying ESV with Hebrew in parallel, 
>>> scrolling from Malachi to Matthew, which Hebrew would not have. I 
>>> was not able to cause any crashes, except occasionally when 
>>> installing modules, after modules finished installing, BT would 
>>> quit. But that was not in every case, and I would not think that was 
>>> at all related to the continuous scrolling.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On 10/10/18 5:08 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>> Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> On the previous message I told you the wrong directory to find the 
>>>> "Sword" directory.
>>>>
>>>> On your command window type:
>>>>
>>>>         echo %APPDATA%
>>>>
>>>> It will probably say:
>>>>
>>>>        C:\Users\garyh\AppData\Roaming
>>>>
>>>> This is where the "Sword" dir is. Sorry for the confusion.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/10/2018 12:55 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I believe you saw this message in your splash screen.
>>>>>
>>>>>         "Initializing the SWORD engine..."
>>>>>
>>>>> That was the last message? This puts the code in "initBackend" 
>>>>> which deals with Sword and the works you have installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The "Sword" directory in your home directory contains the works. 
>>>>> Could you renamed "Sword" to something else like "Sword.save". 
>>>>> After restarting BibleTime, if it starts up the "Sword" directory 
>>>>> would be recreated.  You would have to download some works to be 
>>>>> able to go farther.
>>>>>
>>>>> If BibleTime does start after renaming the directory, perhaps you 
>>>>> could zip up the "Sword.save" and send it to me so I could try it 
>>>>> on my computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/10/2018 11:36 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, so I checked to make sure I had installed the correct 
>>>>>> version by reinstalling it. Then I ran in debug mode, but the 
>>>>>> debug file, which was created today, was an empty text file. 
>>>>>> That's odd, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/10/18 1:16 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The newer vesion has "xx2" in the name instead of "xxx". Are you 
>>>>>>> sure you installed the correct one?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If yes, please start BibleTime from an command window in debug 
>>>>>>> mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     cd \Program Files (x86)\BibleTime\bin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     .\BibleTime.exe  --debug
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After it hangs look in your home directory for a file named 
>>>>>>> "BibleTime Debug.txt". It may have some clues about this issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/10/2018 11:03 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>>>>> Gary,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It still hangs in the splash screen while initiating the sword 
>>>>>>>> engine. I tried completely removing the BibleTime folder, which 
>>>>>>>> was left after the uninstall. Still, it hangs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/8/18 7:26 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found that during startup BibleTime was looking for the 
>>>>>>>>> javascript directory in its installation. We are no longer 
>>>>>>>>> using javascript and the directory does not exist. Sorry for 
>>>>>>>>> that problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a corrected download for you. It also fixes a couple of 
>>>>>>>>> minor issues I found.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://http://sourcearchives.com/BibleTime-2.11.2_xx2-win32.exe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> btGary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/08/2018 11:28 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yo
>>>>>>>>>
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