[sword-devel] OSIS sources? [Was: Re: Project “Free Scriptures” started]

Troy A. Griffitts scribe at crosswire.org
Mon Feb 24 16:49:51 MST 2014

To confirm what others have said: CrossWire has historically held the 
position that we are not the keepers of any authoritative source 
documents.  There are a number of reasons for this, many have been 
stated already in this thread: we are primarily a software development 
project, other projects have a focus on being a document repository, 
authors and publishers are best suited to keep authoritative sources of 
their works, et. al.  We work with these authoritative sources to 
produce SWORD modules directly from the source.

We DO MAINTAIN a link to the source where we obtained the material; 
anyone wishing to use the data from one of our SWORD modules SHOULD 
INSTEAD simply look at the source link in the module .conf file and use 
that source instead.  These are not our works. We want to help others 
find the owners of these works, but we don't want to pass on OUR 
CONVERSION of these works for many reasons: they aren't ours, our 
conversions aren't always precise, etc.
We DO MAINTAIN the scripts we use to convert from that source to a SWORD 
module (sword-tools svn repo)
Our hope has always been for the module creation process FROM THE 
AUTHORITATIVE SOURCE to be REPRODUCIBLE.  (Automated is a dream, and I'd 
love for someone to try to setup an automation process: SOURCE -> 
scripts -> *2mod -> validate -> report, but wouldn't encourage anyone 
because source formats and links change so often I feel it would be a 
waste of time)

These are all very important principles described both by objectors and 
defenders in this thread.

Summary: We don't want to be the place a programmer comes to find data 
sources for their own projects.

On 02/24/2014 01:57 PM, Mate(j Cepl wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 20:16 +0000, Peter von Kaehne wrote:
>> I think the basic decision to not publish OSIS for texts we do not
>> maintain is sound. I have disagreed with it in the past, but once I
>> realised the Chinese whisper like deterioration of texts by project
>> copying from project copying from project my views changed.
> I think you confuse two things (freely modifiable texts and assurance of
> the code consistency … for the latter we have versioning control
> systems, code review, canonical repositories, etc.; programmers don't
> like random changes in their source code any more than the Biblical
> scholars do), but that's not the point. Exactly for this purpose I said
> "source code repository OR available maintainers".
>> The plan is there, the idea is approved, the git stuff is up, what is
>> missing are the scripts and the overall glue.
> Can I help somehow?
> Best,
> Mate(j
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