[sword-devel] ISV status?

Andrew Thule thulester at gmail.com
Mon Jan 7 11:19:21 MST 2013

DM, all of which you said is reasonable; no issues from me.  My point was
in the efforts to assist with module develoment, I apparently crossed some
line. I offered to send an OSIS update, and made a testing version of it
available.  The debate started (as you note) because of my making a testing
version available (this taken to be 'distribution')

I don't have a hard time believing Crosswire has worked out the details
of its licensing agreemnt to distribute the Copyright holder's
text in through a very sensitive process (or even that these agreements
come with residual sensitivies), even if I find it difficult to believe
distribution of (complied) modules for the sake of development is expressly
excluded or limited in otherways.

What I did have a hard time with was being publicly held accountable to
license restrictions reasonably unknown to me (and apparently secret),
while having the issue made personal.  It isn't reasonable to assume I knew
sharing a compiled module with this group would set off a firestorm if the
license between the ISV foundation and CrossWire is treated as confidential

Jerry, well I appreicate what you're saying, I suspect these issues are
issues Crosswire needs to give more thought to internally so that module
developers (volunteers, newcomers etc) are not expected to either provide
the solution or get caught in the crossfire when a can-o-worms gets opened.


On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 1:27 PM, jhphx <jhphx at cox.net> wrote:

> On 1/6/2013 1:54 AM, Andrew Thule wrote:
>> I'm currently reviewing its contents to ensure no module exclusive to
>> Crosswire was available.  I will be putting it back up on completion of my
>> review.
>> ...
> I am not sure how you think being exclusive to Crosswire works in this
> context, but,
> IF:
>    a) none of those other sources have legitimate (licensed) copies of a
> copyrighted text or it's derivatives,
> OR
>    b) none of those sources provided you with a legitimate license to do
> whatever you do,
> OR
>    c) it simply appears like you are violating anyone's copyrights,
>    It won't matter to CrossWire how many other sources there are, you
> would appear to be, and in fact could be, a threat to CrossWire's ability
> to distribute if it appears that CrossWire is condoning what you do. It
> does not matter how the other sources see it, or how you see it, it matters
> how it seems to CrossWire and how it may seem to the publishers they work
> with.
> Andrew, you appear to want to help. There are many things someone like you
> could do, but maybe working on copyrighted modules and distribution of them
> is not the right task for now. There remains many other things needing to
> be done.
> If you still feel the need to work on a copyrighted text for CrossWire
> then I suggest you ask yourself three things:
> a) could this work produce a copy, new copy, new version, or derivative of
> the text,
> b) could this work result in exposing, intentionally or not, a copy so
> that wild (any unlicensed) distribution could result,
> c) could this work possibly offend CrossWire or the publishers they work
> with.
> If the answer to any of those is yes then ask if you should work on it and
> exactly how you should do it to avoid these problems. Although, at this
> time "just ask" may be the best policy.
> Just a suggestion, I am not an official voice on these matters.
> Jerry
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