[sword-devel] [sword-support] Video tutorials

DM Smith dmsmith at crosswire.org
Tue Apr 3 11:36:34 MST 2012

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In Him,

On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:01 AM, Barry Drake wrote:

> Hi there .....  I've been exchanging e-mails with Gary North.  It has not been an easy process, but somehow I've kept my patience.  The first e-mail to sword-support said something like 'Your program doesn't work .... '  I've had to drag information from Gary a word at a time - literally.  However, patience has paid off, and I forward his last e-mail.
> The program that caused all the grief is of course the notorious 'Sword Project for Windows'.  Please please please consider demoting it seriously on the web site.  I've corresponded with many new users who are frustrated and almost lost to Sword entirely because of their first impressions.  Please consider putting Xiphos and BibleTime at the top of the list of Windows programs and hiding the legacy program somewhat lower down the list!  I hope this does not offend - but what is said in the message below is a summary of a lot of views I have tried to respond to.
> I'd appreciate Peter's take on this as he has done far more than I have on the Sword Support list recently.
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	RE: [sword-support] Video tutorials
> Date: 	Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:46:24 -0400
> From: 	Gary North <gnorth at poetworld.net>
> Reply-To: 	<garynorth at garynorth.com>
> To: 	'Barry Drake' <b.drake at ntlworld.com>
> A few minutes ago, one of my site's members -- a programmer -- posted this.
> It pretty much sums it up.
> Yes, I had forgotten how unusable the site really is. The site I linked to
> is the main API site. It is an open source project that started 13 years ago
> to provide an opensource Bible software engine, so yes, run by programmers.
> I suffer from the same disease.
> When you click on the Software link, it lists all the projects that use the
> API. The first software application listed, is useless, and they stopped
> adding features for it in 2008. Its existence is for testing the API. They
> should never had listed it.
> The second one listed, Xiphos, is the product you want for Windows or Linux.
> It is well documented. No videos, but you can read the user's manual here:
> http://xiphos.org/manual/ (it has pictures of the app, making it easier
> reading).
> MacSword (for the Mac) does not appear to be as well documented (no
> pictures, no obvious link to a manual) and only documents how to download
> Bibles, and Commentaries.
> The iPhone app remains true to Apples principles (cute not helpful)
> The documentation for the Android app is nonexistent. I use the Android app,
> but I have used this software for years. You have to go into settings and
> click on "Download Documents" to get Bibles and commentaries, not intuitive.
> I've had my head in the sands for so long in programming, it never crossed
> my mind how unusable the site is, and I have used it for years. Thanks for
> the heads up, Dr. North.
> Now I need to do some soul searching and consider doing screencast videos
> for some of the project's software.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Drake [mailto:b.drake at ntlworld.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:06 AM
> To: garynorth at garynorth.com
> Subject: Re: [sword-support] Video tutorials
> On 03/04/12 12:52, Gary North wrote:
>> Sorry, This is techiebabble.  I may invest some money to provide videos.
> I'm really sorry my explanation is not clear.  Please tell me how to make it
> clearer.  I  thought my question about which Sword program you are using is
> a fairly jargon-free request.  The other thing I referred to is an item that
> appears somewhere in a menu in every Sword program - it is called 'module
> manager', or sometimes 'bookshelf', and our term for a bible or a commentary
> etc is a 'module'.
> I'd love to be able to help or to point you in the direction of help if only
> you will give me more information.  Usually, there is a 'help->about' menu
> item in  the program.  This would tell you what I need to know.
> God bless,        Barry.
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