[sword-devel] Xiphos : copy'n'paste to facebook produces Chinese !

Karl Kleinpaste karl at kleinpaste.org
Wed Jun 30 09:27:56 MST 2010

David Haslam <d.haslam at ukonline.co.uk> writes:
> I'm still not satisfied that the answers I have been given by members
> of the Xiphos team are correct.

David, that is quite enough.

Tell me where I should even go looking.  Don't just say "it's wrong, fix
it."  Xiphos is not part of the equation.  There is text in a window,
and that's the end of Xiphos' involvement in what you're doing.  After
that, it's Windows-internal choices (and bugs) interacting with
hypercomplex web page input boxes.

Bear in mind that, to see this go wrong, one must have this complete
intersection of circumstances:
- Windows
- Firefox
- copy via Windows-specific ^C, not via Xiphos' own copy/export (which
  works just fine, thankyouverymuch).
- surfing a web page whose input boxes are governed by hypercomplex
  javascript crud.

It takes *all* of those to make it go wrong.  Again, Xiphos' involvement
ends at displaying text.  There is nothing more Xiphos can do about it.
^C: Windows function, NOT A XIPHOS CHOICE.
^V: Windows function, NOT A XIPHOS CHOICE.

Xiphos is not in the operational path.

As another test, I just went to my WinXP VM, started Word 2007, typed
"This is a test" at a blank document, mouse-swept it, hit ^C, pasted it
with ^V into a Firefox input box at Facebook.  Result:

Gee, howzaboutthat.  Huh.  Waddayaknow.  It's a mess.

Though there is no actual Chinese, there is nonetheless a whole pile of
"LidThemeAsian" and "UseAsianBreakRules" and so forth.  Notice the raw
VOLUME of text that was pasted into place, as indicated by the scrollbar
fraction on the right.

Even better: Start Xiphos, nav Gen 1:1, mouse-sweep, copy with ^C, go to
Word 2007, paste with ^V.  Result:

Gee, howzaboutthat.  Huh.  Waddayaknow.  A totally clean paste FROM

So now I've demonstrated FAILED paste from an application OTHER THAN
Xiphos.  And I've demonstrated SUCCESSFUL paste from Xiphos to places
OTHER THAN hypercomplex javascript browser input boxes.  Ergo...

Tell it to Windows, Firefox, or Facebook.  I'm tired of hearing about
some supposedly heinous Xiphos bug that is utterly out of our control.
Whether you're personally "satisfied" with the answers is your problem,
not ours.

"I must say, I am continually amazed at the willingness of the
 public to demand arbitrary amounts of work from other people."
			--Bob Scheifler, comp.windows.x, 21 Feb 1990

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