[sword-devel] Debian and Ubuntu packages

Martin Gruner mg.pub at gmx.net
Fri Jan 23 11:30:37 MST 2009


full ACK. Thanks for investigating this.
We'll try to release BibleTime 1.7 ASAP.


Am Freitag 23 Januar 2009 16:54:22 schrieb Peter von Kaehne:
> Dear All,
> As all of you know the Debian and Ubuntu packages are way out of date,
> and are falling behind more and more. To a degree this is mitigated by
> DomCox's packages, but in the end it hurts the project as it gives
> exposre to old stuff.
> I have therefore tried to get to the bottom of this and how best to
> resolve it.
> Dan Glassey who is on Sword mailing list is listed as the Debian
> maintainer. Ubuntu lists him also as their maintainer, but that is
> erroneous. A email from him to me stated that he is not the Ubuntu
> maintainer and  that he is under a lot of pressure hence unable to do
> much wrt Debian either. Follow up emails have not resulted in responses,
> so I guess the pressue is still on.
> Ubuntu gets it  SWORD related packages via Debian as no one among
> Ubuntu's own maintainers has taken up the challenge.  A mail to the
> ubuntu motu list has brought about a couple of volunteers from them, so
> that might change. Should we acquire a Ubuntu MOTU maintainer, then we
> would be able to feed up to date packages into Ubuntu - irrespective of
> what happens in Debian.
> The current deadline for package freeze is 19th February (Ubuntu 9.04)
> Not sure if anyone can manage this.It would be nice though. There are a
> fair number of volunteers there from their side.
> The alternative is to get them again updated into Debian and then see
> them trickling down.
> That aside several points were raised in responses I got and I thought I
> should share them here:
> 1) Diatheke - we should rebadge the CGI scripts as "examples" or remove
> them due to the security issues associated with them.
> 2) libsword - one Ubuntu MOTU complained that we do not publish a
> detailed list of API changes (vs general bug fixes) from version to
> version. At least he could not find it. I guess this is a fair point.
> 3) dependencies - I think we need to do some work on convincing them
> that our modules should be classified as e-books (and subsequently not
> packaged) rather than as "updates" or "plugins" and hence packaged.
> Otherwise they will continue to package bibles etc.
> 4) GUI module manager - one of the results of them packaging modules is
> that our GUI module managers in BT and GS can not remove packages. A
> suggestion raised (and a good one in my view) was that the package
> manager could check if privileges for writing are there for a particular
> location and if not seek authentication via + use sudo. In my view this
> is desirable.
> I have bcc'ed my correspondents + volunteer aspirants among the Ubuntu
> lot and hope that some will join this thread on the mailing list + we
> can get the ball rolling again.
> Yours
> Peter
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