[sword-devel] BibleTime Windows and Mac packages

Manfred Bergmann bergmannmd at web.de
Sat Apr 18 05:36:58 MST 2009

Am 18.04.2009 um 12:34 schrieb DM Smith:

> Regarding Mac, here is my experience (pretending to be a typical Mac  
> user):
> 1) The installer was a surprise. I did not expect a pkg installer  
> but rather I expected to have an app wrapped in a dmg that I would  
> drag to the location of my choice. This is what both Bible Desktop  
> and Mac Sword have. This kind of installer is not at all typical for  
> a Mac user. I see it for things like MacOffice, Adobe Photoshop, EA  
> games and other stuff from very well known vendors. It makes me  
> wonder whether I want to install at all as it gives away root access  
> to my machine, making me suspicious of a Trojan. Though I know you  
> guys and am not suspicious, I am curious as to what is being  
> installed that requires root access.

Surprise for me too. An installer is better than not having BibleTime  
on Mac at all.
However installers are for more complex installations where you need  
to install Kernel extensions or need to run some post-install scripts.
In this case, if all data is within the application bundle an  
installer is not needed.

The Admin access is to write the data into /usr where normally you  
don't have write access.
But the same applies to /Applications.

> 5) Having found it I have know idea how to run it. Since I can't get  
> to it in Finder, I can't execute it. From terminal one cannot run an  
> app as the app is nothing more than a folder. No normal Mac user  
> will ever use the Terminal to do anything. Not being a normal Mac  
> user, I finally moved it /Applications where it can be seen by  
> Spotlight, my preferred way of launching programs, and by Finder.

You can run application bundles from command line. Check out "open"  
For example:
# open /usr/bibletime.app
should run it. But yes, normally very few people do this.


> On Apr 18, 2009, at 3:03 AM, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
>> I forward this from bt-devel because some people here might be  
>> interested on Windows and Mac binaries (see 2) and 3) below) of  
>> BibleTime.
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [bt-devel] CPack and other patches
>> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:17:14 -0500
>> From: Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: BibleTime development <bt-devel at crosswire.org>
>> To: BibleTime development <bt-devel at crosswire.org>
>> On http://www.crosswire.org/~ghellings/bibletime you should be able
>> now to find the following files:
>> 1) Bt-with-Qt4.5.zip - a file which consists of all my BibleTime  
>> build
>> directories from Windows.  You can unzip it into, e.g.,
>> C:\Bt-with-Qt4.5 (where I had it), run CMake across the bibletime-svn
>> and bibletime-build directories, then open Bibletime\Bibletime.sln  
>> and
>> things should build for you.  YMMV, but I'll try to help out as much
>> as possible.  You'll need your own build of Qt in order for this to
>> work.  Please let me know of problems you have, including if I'm
>> breaking GPL/LGPL licenses with it, but I think all the sources for
>> everything but Qt are included.  You'll still need to set a few
>> environment variables before running CMake: QTDIR needs to point to
>> the root of the Qt build you're using and BOOST_ROOT to the base of
>> the boost_1_38_0\ directory under this unpackaged folder.
>> 2) bibletime-2.0.0alpha3-win32.exe - an installer, built with CPack,
>> that should install everything needed for users of BibleTime on
>> Windows.  Again, YMMV, but I've actually tested it, this time, on my
>> XP virtual machine and everything installs and runs.  I'm not able to
>> get the SVG files running on XP, but there is a QtSvg4.dll and
>> QtSvgd4.dll in the 4.5.0 build -- getting those linked in properly (I
>> modified CMakeLists.txt to link in the SVG libraries, but I they  
>> don't
>> seem to be used) might solve our issue of that display.
>> 3) bibletime-2.0.0alpha3-Darwin.dmg - an installer I built, also with
>> CPack, as a first attempt at getting the system to operate as it is
>> supposed to.  If someone with a non-development Mac could test it out
>> and give feedback, it'd be great to help me in figuring out exactly
>> what libraries are needed in the install pack.
>> 4) CMake.diff -- a patch file that makes all the above possible.  It
>> includes the patches that make this possible and I've tested them on
>> both Windows and Macintosh.
>> Any feedback from others?  We can certainly extend the CPack material
>> to cover other package systems.  It'd be nice to hear if I'm chasing
>> shadows or if this is a good direction for me to pursue.  I got no
>> feedback on the patch I posted here yesterday that dealt with all the
>> issues except for the CPack.  The patch in there now includes the one
>> from yesterday with a few fixes.
>> --Greg
>> --Greg
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