[sword-devel] Chapter-centric browsing (was: iPhone frontend alpha screenshots)
iwagn973 at students.bju.edu
Mon Nov 24 10:50:38 MST 2008
On Nov 24, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:04 AM, <seb.sword at koocotte.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 07:05:28AM -0500, Ian Wagner wrote:
>>> Please let me know any ideas/suggestions you have.
>> Really nice !
>> I have one suggestion you may find irrelevant: Don't cut on
>> chapters but on
>> I know that most (all?) sword frontend are displaying text chapter by
>> chapter, and sword-API is probably build this way; but I think it's
>> a very
>> bad idea. Chapters and verses are a common and useful way to locate
>> a text
>> fragment, not a way to cut text. This create artificial
>> separations. Except
>> for Psalms, books are a more relevant separation, text was not
>> written in small parts.
>> This may requiere a more tricky usage of libsword, keeping 3 or 4
>> at the same time to display text as if it was the full book.
> I think this is in general a good idea (chapters are fairly artificial
> and far too often the chapter breaks are off by a verse). I'm not
> even sure that having divisions on books is a good thing. However,
> one thing that does need to be considered if any application goes that
> way (and I know of no Sword application that has, though it has been
> considered for BPBible and is still sort of on the TODO list) is how
> scrollbars and paging should work. I know I sometimes go to the start
> or middle of a particular chapter and:
> 1. Use the scrollbar as a rough measure of how long the chapter is.
> 2. Scroll or page up/down to get to the start/end of a chapter from
> where I am. While I agree chapter divisions aren't perfect, it is
> generally easier if you have been thrown into the middle of the
> chapter by a reference to go to the top and then go down to establish
> the context of the reference - this relies on scrolling/paging up/down
> being limited by the end of the chapter, and I'm not sure how if at
> all you can replace it. Probably applications have or should have
> shortcuts to go to the start/end of a chapter, but even if they did
> Page Up and Page Down are wired in actions and "obvious", while doing
> something special to get to the start/end of a chapter requires
> thought, and I am busy focusing on the task at hand (establishing
> context and remembering where I have come from), not on using the
> I do think that in general removing the arbitrary chapter limitation
> would be a good thing, but these considerations and others could be
> important to getting it right.
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Have any of you used the Libronix Digital Library System (previously
known as Logos bible software)? They actually load up the ENTIRE book
(whether it be a bible or commentary or whatnot) so you have a
scrollbar indicator about as thick as a credit card :) Just thought
I'd throw that out there. I'll have to think about this idea some more.
There's no place like 127.0.0.1
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