[sword-devel] CDEarth GPL violation
dmsmith555 at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 27 12:22:54 MST 2008
Would you burn copies before sending them back? Or at least make a
recursive listing. I am curious whether the JSword/BD disk is also an
old version, whether it actually includes the complete source, whether
it is implemented in such a way that it will come back to bite us with
support questions, .....
I really like that you used a limited debit card. Such a cool idea.
Also wondering whether they include modules on the CD? That might be a
violation of the licensing agreements that CrossWire has with some
Chris Little wrote:
> I went ahead and ordered the two Sword-related CDs from CDEarth to check
> whether they are in compliance with the GPL. They actually are not, at
> least when it comes to the CD with The SWORD Project for Windows and
> MacSword. (The Bible Desktop/JSword CD might be okay, since they include
> source for both.)
> The CD includes The Sword Project for Windows (1.5.8), MacSword (1.2.1),
> a small handful of mostly outdated modules (with separate copies for
> each of the above), the Windows Help file, some auto-run type stuff, and
> source code for Sword 1.5.8 and 1.5.9.
> 1) It's all annoyingly outdated.
> 2) There's a bit of fraudulence in stating that it comes with a network
> module installer since, for the Mac at least, it does not.
> 3) There's no mention anywhere of what the software is or the license
> until you run the installer.
> 4) The little slip of paper that comes with it, like the website, makes
> mention that "[t]hrough our special licensing arrangement and because we
> publish our software directly to you, each trial CD is only USD$14.99
> (which as you know is up to 80% off the store price for similar
> products)." I suspect this is itself in violation of the GPL. I don't
> believe there is any recourse for revocation of a license from end-users
> like the term "trial" implies. I also don't know that the whole
> try-for-25-days-then-we-bill-you concept is quite kosher with the GPL.
> It might require some pretty close reading of the license.
> But most importantly:
> 5) There's no source code, nor an offer for source code, for The SWORD
> Project for Windows or MacSword. So, we're actually and legitimately in
> a position where we can demand removal, DMCA takedown by the ISP, all
> that good stuff.
> I'm going to mail back my two "trial" CDs tomorrow and we'll see whether
> they try to ding the credit card for $29.98 anyway. (It's a gift card
> with $0.70 remaining, so I'm not concerned about losing any money, but I
> wouldn't mind alerting the FTC if they try to do another charge.)
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