[sword-devel] BibleCS Installer

Greg Hellings greg.hellings at gmail.com
Sat Feb 4 09:21:51 MST 2006

Personally I hate it when there is no option to *not* create Start
Menu/Quick Start/Desktop shortcuts.  For each of those steps it would be
nice to have a check box or some other item that allows me to say "Do Not
Create Shortcut."  Just my preference, really.


On 2/4/06, DM Smith <dmsmith555 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Troy,
>     Lynn and I have been working on this. Our approach has been a little
> different. My goal is to get a basic installer for just BibleCS and his
> has been to create a family of installers for all derivative Sword API
> Windows applications. These are not at odds with each other and I think
> we are nearly there with at least a first pass.
> To finish the first pass, we need a couple of things:
> 1) All the compile artifacts of the build (e.g. dlls, exes, ...) as I
> don't have a C++ compile environment. Preferably, these should be what
> will be used by the installer. Also, if you could give me the paths for
> these using the checkout scheme below that would be great. Currently, I
> am stubbing this with 1.5.6.
> 2) What are the other files that must be included? And for dlls, what
> versions?
> (For 1 and 2, if you could create an directory layout of what the final
> install should be like that might be easier. Essentially, this would be
> a zip of what the installation directory would contain right after
> installation when no modules are installed.)
> 3) What is the minimum set of files to provide the Sword API for other
> applications? (I want to create a SwordAPI installer that will install
> the absolute minimum that a derivative application must have present.
> This will then be called by those applications installers, if the
> SwordAPI has not been installed.) Does it need icudt34.dll? Does it need
> the install manager? How about all the subdirectories in
> biblecs/.../stage/?
> 4) In an earlier note, Lynn gave a path to a patch to allow for the
> modules to be located elsewhere. Is this something that can be included
> in 1.5.8 or should it wait for a later release.
> 5) NSIS needs (un)installer icons that work. I am terrible at artwork,
> so I am not the one to do it. NSIS requires that the size of the
> installer and uninstaller icons be the same.
> Can you give me check in privs for the installer directory? Then I can
> work in there. I think that the following addition to the svn
> authorization file, would work:
> [biblecs:/trunk/installer]
> dmsmith=rw
> Right now this is where the installer is at:
> 1) Offers the user a choice as to where to install the program and what
> Start Menu Group to create.
>     It defaults to the same default locations that 1.5.6 uses.
> 2) The installation
>     a) Installs the files
>     b) creates the registry entries
>        i) The uninstaller is listed in Add/Remove Programs
>        ii) Keys and values are created so that other programs can
> discover where Sword is installed.
>     c) creates a desktop shortcut
>         Does not offer the user a choice about this one.
>         Should also probably install to the Quick Start task bar. And it
> should be a choice, too.
>     d) creates shortcuts in the Start Menu for
>         i) the Sword program
>         ii) the Sword Install Manager
>         iii) the website
>         iv) the uninstaller
>        It probably should also create a shortcut to help.
>     e) It adds/changes SWORD_HOME environment variable to point to the
> installation directory.
>     The installer assumes that prior versions have been deleted. This
> may be bad.
>     Are there any files that *must* be removed for the install to the
> same directory to be successful?
>     For example, is it bad to have icudtXX.dll and icudtYY.dll in the
> same directory?
> 3) It creates an uninstaller that
>     a) runs InstallManager -uninstall
>        currently, this is broken
>     b) Removes all files that the installer installed. Leaving all files
> that the program or user created.
>     c) Removes all shortcuts (that have not been moved)
>     c) Removes empty folders
>     d) Removes registry entries.
>     The uninstaller does not determine whether there are any dependent,
> derivative applications and act appropriately.
>     These will have a registry key located under HKLM\software\CrossWire.
>     It should be the responsibility of the last removed derivative
> application to remove the SwordAPI.
> Is there anything missing from the above? Must haves? Should haves? Nice
> to have?
> The last thing needed before the installer(s) is(are) released is robust
> testing. I know there are somethings that don't work yet and some of the
> paths are wrong. And there may be some things, I won't find because I
> always test the same small set of paths! So after I get the bugs out
> that I know, testing help would be appreciated.
> In His Service,
>     DM
> Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >    I spend today trying to build a new installer for the upcoming
> > release of BibleCS.  I'm abandoning the commercial InstallShield
> > installer we currently use and am trying to make everything work using
> > the free NullSoft installer.  I gave up after trying to learn the
> > scripting language and downloaded Eclipse and the NullSoft Installer
> > plugin for Eclipse.  I used a wizard and got it pretty far.  Had to
> > hand edit the generated script to get it to compile.
> >
> > There are a few things missing:
> >    Launch Readme.txt and wait for close BEFORE launching
> > InstallManager.exe
> >    Registry keys correct so Windows Module self-installers (website,
> > module download, windows) know where to unzip themselves.
> >    Uninstaller successfully launching "$INSTDIR/InstallManager.exe
> > -uninstall" to uninstall all modules
> >
> >    I've checked everything in:
> > https://crosswire.org/svn/biblecs/trunk/installer   so if you'd like
> > to give it a shot, please help yourself!  It expects the normal:
> > sword, icu-sword, biblecs directories all checked out at the same level.
> >
> > svn co https://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk sword
> > svn co https://crosswire.org/svn/icu-sword/trunk icu-sword
> > svn co https://crosswire.org/svn/biblecs/trunk biblecs
> >
> >    I'd really welcome the help with this.
> >
> >       -Troy.
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