[sword-devel] Flashcards and vocab word conversion

anthony kerr anton_kylie at pacific.net.au
Wed Sep 15 02:01:48 MST 2004


If it helps I have Mounce's words occurring 10 times and up on my website, and 
a Hebrew vocab list with 800 items. Both are in unicode txt files.

in Christ
anthony


http://www.jesuscentral.net/jc_resources.html

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 02:31 pm, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Hey DM,
>  Thanks so much for your work.  You're not a good example for me.  I
> find the more I procrastinate, the more work gets done!  The web
> installer has been a great benefit!
>
>  Just started third semester Greek, and first semester Hebrew.  The
> flashcards app is really a blessing to me.  I have a bunch of vocab
> words for Hebrew that I need to try to convert for use with flashcards.
>   They are in some strange font (maybe BHebrew encoding), that I need to
> try to convert.
>
>  If anyone is up for an attempt, the files are at:
>
>  http://crosswire.org/~scribe/hebvocab.tar.gz
>
>  Any other flash lessons, like Mounce's Greek textbook would also be
> very useful for other students, I'm sure!
>
>  You guys all rock!  Thank you for contributing your time to the Kingdom!
>
>  -Troy.
>
> DM Smith wrote:
> > Troy, I added 4 new classes that may prove useful:
> > FlashCard.java - The individual test.
> > Lesson.java - A named set of FlashCards
> > LessonSet.java - A named set of Lessons.
> > LessonManager.java - a manager of LessonSets.
> >
> > These are not hooked into anything.
> >
> > They are thrown together fairly quickly, and may have bugs, but I have
> > done some of testing.
> >
> > How it works:
> > Create a LessonMgr and then call load() to get all the lessons into
> > core. Call store() and it will write all modified lessons to a home
> > account.
> >
> > Thebasic  idea is to create a LessonMgr in Quiz.java and in Editor.java
> > and pass it to MainFrame.java and to EditorFrame.java. When
> > MainFrame.java creates an EditorFrame, it will pass its LessonMgr to it.
> >
> > I have also added a copyright notice to the top of every file. I used
> > the copyright from JSword and changed JSword to FlashCards. If this is
> > not correct, it can be changed.
> >
> > DM Smith wrote:
> >> Sorry for the delay in answering. Just got back from a weekend holiday.
> >>
> >> Troy, I am going to be fairly complete. Probably much of this you have
> >> figured out by now or already knew. My goal in doing this is that
> >> FlashCards is your baby and I want you to have full knowledge of what
> >> I have done. So that you will feel fairly comfortable with the changes.
> >>
> >> The CWClassLoader finds resources using a fairly sophisticated lookup
> >> mechanism so that you will not have to create your own.
> >>
> >> Here is the basic history, design and implementation of CWClassLoader
> >> and ResourceUtil: (This should help to answer your question)
> >> Java's basis mechanism for lookup is either explicit (i.e. I know
> >> where the file is so I construct a path name from what is known.) or
> >> implicit (i.e. use the class path to look for the file.) The latter
> >> mechanism was that if you called classObj.getResource(xyz), it had one
> >> of two behaviors. If the name began with a '/' the resource would be
> >> sought for along the classpath. If it did not it was looked for in the
> >> same directory as the definition of the class object.
> >>
> >> Since the program could be installed anywhere, we initially supplied a
> >> shell script (bat file) that would start up the program. Relative to
> >> that directory, we had a resource directory where all resources were
> >> kept. The path of the resource directory was passed into the program
> >> and it was put on the classpath. With this we could either use
> >> explicit lookup or call getResource using '/'.
> >>
> >> For JSword, the resources were initially being kept in files that had
> >> dotted names like files in packages:
> >> E.g. org.crosswire.jsword.book.BibleInfo.properties
> >> The purpose of this was to allow a developer to easily change the
> >> properties. It was also the place where the program maintained
> >> persistent performance data that was used for the progress meters.
> >>
> >> When we went to WebStart, a couple of things happened. First, we could
> >> not write to the resource directory. So we had to have a different
> >> location. Second, since webstart requires all resources to be held in
> >> signed jars, the developer could not modify the resources. Third, we
> >> had no idea where WebStart would store the program, so we could not
> >> pass in the installation location. Fourth, we no longer had control
> >> over the classpath that was created and could not add an arbitrary
> >> directory location.
> >>
> >> We had worked out a way that we could use getResource to find a
> >> resource, but now needed to also explicitly look for it in the file
> >> system as well. So we wrote code that first looked in ~/.jsword and
> >> then in the jars. This was all well and good, but when we went to
> >> internationalize the program, we had to treat the property files as
> >> ResourceBundles. And ResourceBundles always use a class loader to find
> >> resources. So we had to migrate the lookup to a ClassLoader and use it.
> >>
> >> So, in a nutshell here is how it works. Lets say that you have a
> >> resource called lessonA.flash that is used by
> >> org.crosswire.flashcards.Reader. If CWClassLoader is used to find
> >> lessons/black/lessonA.flash via ResourceUtil.getResource(). It will
> >> look for the file in the following places with the following names:
> >> First look for it relative to the package:
> >> 1) org.crosswire.flashcards.lessons.black.lessonA.flash in ~/.flashcards
> >> 2) org.crosswire.flashcards.lessons.black.lessonA.flash in a jar
> >> Then look for it relative to the root of the classpath:
> >> 3) lessons.black.lessonA.flash in ~/.flashcards
> >> 4) lessons.black.lessonsA.flash in the a jar
> >> Finally look for it as a file:
> >> 5)  lessons/black/lessonA.flash in ~/.flashcards
> >> 6) lessons/black/lessonA.flash in the jar
> >>
> >> That is, it manages the lookup for you.
> >>
> >> To have it look in ~/.flashcards the program needs to do the
> >> following: (Assume DIR_PROJECT is .flashcards)
> >>            String path = System.getProperty("user.home") +
> >> File.separator + DIR_PROJECT; //$NON-NLS-1$
> >>            URL home = new URL(FILE_PROTOCOL, null, path);
> >>            CWClassLoader.setHome(home);
> >>
> >> If two different programs (Quiz and Editor) work on the same location,
> >> then both programs need to have these three lines.
> >>
> >> The twist that FlashCards has that is not present in JSword, it that
> >> JSword merely looks up a known resource, but FlashCards discovers what
> >> resources it has available. FlashCards then has the additional step of
> >> creating a map of discovered resources. When it discovers the resource
> >> it does not remember whether it was found in the filesystem or in the
> >> jar. It lets the ResourceUtil.getResource figure that out at that time.
> >>
> >> So in looking at the code you will find that it looks for lessons thusly
> >> It first digs into the jar to get lessons with getJarLessons. Since
> >> these are not located in org.crosswire.flashcards, a '/' is prefixed.
> >> Then it looks in the file system with getHomeLessons.
> >>
> >> As it gets the lessons, they are stored by their path. Then by their
> >> URL with the widget.
> >>
> >> Now if one of these lessons is loaded into the Editor, it may have
> >> come from the jar or it may have come from the filesystem. It really
> >> does not matter. ResourceUtil.getResource will sort it out. When the
> >> file is written out, it will need to be saved in the filesystem. Any
> >> URLs that are remembered for the resource will have to be updated.
> >> (Right now each checkbox remembers the URL. If this were to change to
> >> being the path, then no place would need to be adjusted.)
> >>
> >> So here are the changes I see that the program needs to have done to
> >> make it work with what it has:
> >> 1) Add CWClassLoader.setHome to EditorFrame so it will work in stand
> >> alone mode.
> >> 2) change the JFileChoosers to look in CWClassLoader.getHome() (i.e.
> >> line 213 in MainFrame, 45 and 62 in EditorFrame)
> >> 3) Store the path on the widget (i.e. a String and not an URL) and do
> >> the lookup for the URL when the lesson is loaded.
> >>
> >> At this time, the program assumes that the lessons are in a
> >> subdirectory of a "lessons" directory. So some thought may want to be
> >> put into whether this is a good restriction or not. If so, the user
> >> really does not need to open a JFileChooser, they could either pick an
> >> existing lesson to edit or create one from scratch by naming the
> >> lesson set (e.g. black) and the lesson (e.g. lesson01vocab). The
> >> program would be responsible for converting this to a path and writing
> >> it to the file system.
> >>
> >> If the user can write to any location then CWClassLoader would need to
> >> change setHome to setHomePath and each location would need to be
> >> stored in a persistent location so it could be remembered the next run.
> >>
> >> I would also suggest a change to the setup screen, where the name of
> >> the lesson set is pickable (JComboBox or JList would do). When it is
> >> picked, then a list of lessons is populated. I suggest having a
> >> scrollable JList of the checkboxes.
> >>
> >> The trick would be to have the JComboBox listen for the creation of
> >> new lesson sets and the lesson listing to update when they are added,
> >> deleted or renamed or reordered. I suggest the Observer pattern using
> >> a LessonEditEvent and a LessonEditEventListener.
> >>
> >> As I "broke" the editing function, I would be willing to help in
> >> whatever way you wish.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >>    DM
> >>
> >> Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> >>> Hey DM,
> >>>     Been working on re-adding support for editing files into
> >>> flashcards and am trying to understand how things work.  Help me
> >>> learn about the need for the classloader extension.
> >>>
> >>>     Here is what I think the path might be for loading the lesson
> >>> groups.
> >>>
> >>>     1. look on the resource path (basically, the flashcards.jar file)
> >>> for "lessons/<lesson_group>/*.flash
> >>>     2. CWD "file:lessons/<lesson_group>/*.flash
> >>>     3. CWD "jar:file:lessons/*.jar!/lessons/<lesson_group>/*.flash
> >>>     4. HOME "file:${user.home}/.flashcards/lessons/
> >>> <lesson_group>/*.flash
> >>>     5. HOME "jar:file:${user.home}/.flashcards/lessons/
> >>> *.jar!/lessons/<lesson_group>/*.flash
> >>>
> >>>     I was going to attempt to write this today with 2 functions which
> >>> could be called from the quizzer and the editor could use at least
> >>> the first when the path is chosen:
> >>>
> >>>     // called for each <lesson_group> found
> >>>     public static void addLessonGroup(Map lessonGroups, URL url);
> >>>
> >>>     // called 5 times with above logic
> >>>     public static Vector discoverLessonGroups(URL lessonsPath);
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     ...but thought it best to ask you for direction, as I still don't
> >>> understand the function of the class loader.
> >>>
> >>>     Thanks for your efforts and in advance for your guidance!
> >>>
> >>>         -Troy.
> >>>
> >>> DM Smith wrote:
> >>>> For those that were following this thread. Troy, John and I took it
> >>>> the conversation offline to figure out the problem.
> >>>> We have fixed the problem (which was that the jar did not have the
> >>>> image files needed for the editor).
> >>>>
> >>>> The program is available via webstart at www.crosswire.org/flashcards.
> >>>>
> >>>> John's addition to the program is the ability to run the editor from
> >>>> inside of the quizzer.
> >>>>
> >>>> Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> >>>>> OK John,
> >>>>>     Here's my latest discoveries.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     If I build on the server with ant and jdk 1.5.0, I have the
> >>>>> null editor window, running on XP jdk 1.4.1.
> >>>>>     If I build on the server with ant and jdk 1.4.2, I have the
> >>>>> null editor window, running on XP jdk 1.4.1.
> >>>>>     If I build on the server with your build script and jdk 1.5.0,
> >>>>> I get 1.5.0 compile errors which have been fixed and committed, and
> >>>>> then I get:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:
> >>>>> org/crosswire /flashcards/Quiz (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     which is probably expected from XP and jdk 1.4.1
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     If I build on the server with your build script and jdk 1.4.2
> >>>>> everything works on XP jdk 1.4.1.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Hope we can track this down.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>         -Troy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> get On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, John Jacques wrote:
> >>>>>> Troy,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't get anything when I try to run the editor from the MainMenu
> >>>>>> using webstart (Quiz does work).  All works well when I run from the
> >>>>>> command line (on Linux):
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>     $ java -jar flashcards.jar
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Editor is the correct size etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I almost have my local web server set up to allow me to use
> >>>>>> webstart. The last remaining obsticle is signing the jar file!  I am
> >>>>>> trying as recommended
> >>>>>> (http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/jws/developersguide/devel
> >>>>>>opment.html#signing) but haven't been able to obtain 'unrestricted
> >>>>>> access'...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 12:20, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> >>>>>>> John,
> >>>>>>>      We could try setting a size.  It's not necessarily a webstart
> >>>>>>> issue.  I got that error I reported to you by running the
> >>>>>>> produced jar
> >>>>>>> file on an XP box.  If you click on the webstart link from this
> >>>>>>> page:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://crosswire.org/flashcards/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> does the edit choice work for you?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I can grab the corner of the very small editor window and resize it
> >>>>>>> larger, but there is nothing on the client area.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you'd really like the breathing marks to be entered before the
> >>>>>>> letters,
> >>>>>>> the IM mechanism supports multiple keystroke for character
> >>>>>>> entry.  This is
> >>>>>>> used in the Michigan Claremont Hebrew keymap, if you'd like to
> >>>>>>> see how it
> >>>>>>> works.  Actually, just reviewed HebrewMCIM.java and it looks really
> >>>>>>> convoluted.  Sorry about that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>      Thanks for your work!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>          -Troy.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, John Jacques wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Troy,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The main difference I see is that MainFrame.java doesn't use
> >>>>>>>> java.awt.Toolkit to determine the screen size as in
> >>>>>>>> Editor.java.  It
> >>>>>>>> might be worth setting a screen size there...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm glad my other changes didn't break anything!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'll try to set up webstart on a local webserver.  Looks like I
> >>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>> just have to edit Flashcards.jnlp.  Is it that simple?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 16:49, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> John,
> >>>>>>>>>      Thank you for your recent submissions.  I have updated the
> >>>>>>>>> webstart installer to the latest code and the editor doesn't
> >>>>>>>>> seem to
> >>>>>>>>> launch for me.  I get an error:
> >>>>>>>>>   ERROR :
> >>>>>>>>> org.crosswire.flashcards.EditorFrame[frame0,0,0,0x0,invalid,hidde
> >>>>>>>>>n,layo
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ut=java.awt.BorderLayout,title=,resizable,normal,defaultCloseOper
> >>>>>>>>>ation=HIDE_ON_C
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> LOSE,rootPane=javax.swing.JRootPane[,0,0,0x0,invalid,layout=javax
> >>>>>>>>>.swing.JRootPan
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> e$RootLayout,alignmentX=null,alignmentY=null,border=,flags=385,ma
> >>>>>>>>>ximumSize=,mini
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> mumSize=,preferredSize=],rootPaneCheckingEnabled=true] :
> >>>>>>>>> Thread[main,5,main]
> >>>>>>>>> null
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> and a very small windows (actually just the titlebar).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Let me know if you have an idea what it might be.  Thank you.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>      -Troy.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, John Jacques wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Troy,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm going to check in my changes to flashcards.  So far there
> >>>>>>>>>> are no
> >>>>>>>>>> major changes, just minor fixes.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If I want to make larger changes, should we branch?  Does the
> >>>>>>>>>> revision
> >>>>>>>>>> (4 in this case) match up with other CrossWire software such
> >>>>>>>>>> as modedit
> >>>>>>>>>> (which I believe is used elsewhere)?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> One last question, is there a mailing list, or any other
> >>>>>>>>>> forum, where
> >>>>>>>>>> new ideas should be discussed before they are implemented?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 03:23, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> John,
> >>>>>>>>>>>     We've recently changed servers and it has been keeping me
> >>>>>>>>>>> busy for the
> >>>>>>>>>>> past few weeks.  We just put a new live SVN repository online
> >>>>>>>>>>> at:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://crosswire.org/svn/flashcards/
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The repository permission is currently WORLD READ/WRITE.  If
> >>>>>>>>>>> you would
> >>>>>>>>>>> like to commit your changes to the repository, you are
> >>>>>>>>>>> welcome to do so.
> >>>>>>>>>>>   Not sure if you've had subversion experience.  If now, you
> >>>>>>>>>>> can find
> >>>>>>>>>>> info and software at:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://subversion.tigris.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again for your willingness to help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>     -Troy.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> John Jacques wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Troy,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I made the following changes.  Let me know if you keep any
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of them!
> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are files named "Changes.eruditelite" in any directory
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I made
> >>>>>>>>>>>> changes in that describe each change and the modified
> >>>>>>>>>>>> files.  I have
> >>>>>>>>>>>> also included the change files in this messages (see below).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using a revision control system?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, what do you think of the following proposals:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     1) Add a Quiz mode in which the user is presented with the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        vocabulary word only (not multiple choice) and then the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>            answer (either time delayed or by pressing a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> button).  The
> >>>>>>>>>>>>            user then indicates whether they knew the word or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> not.  The
> >>>>>>>>>>>>            current mode (multiple choice) would still be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> available.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     2) Cleanup ".flash" files when saving (eliminate unused
> >>>>>>>>>>>>            entries, renumber etc.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ========== In the top directory:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Added GNUmakefile to speedup working from emacs/command
> >>>>>>>>>>>> line.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Updated to the latest (on the website 22 July 2004)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> modedit.  This
> >>>>>>>>>>>>    allowed me to enter text (classical greek) in Mandrake
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 10.0. 3) Added MounceBasicsChapter04.flash (Vocabulary from
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chapter 4 of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>    Mounce's Basics of Biblical Greek).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ========== In src/flash:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Changed tool tip for "Save" from "Help" to "Save"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (EditorFrame.java:102)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Stopped displaying exception on startup when
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "NewLesson.flash"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>    didn't exist.  (EidtorFrame.java:247)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2004-07-17 at 16:37, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     Thanks for the offer.  We'd love any help you'd be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> willing to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer.  That's how our open projects improve!  You'll
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> find the source
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in the same directory pointed to by the download link.  I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have an actual link to it yet.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     We do have some c++/linux/handheld apps:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     http://crosswire.org/qpsword/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     And we'd love to see flashcards run on the Zaurus! :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Or at least
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a client that reads the same lesson formats.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     Thanks you again for your persistence to get our app to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> work and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> willingness to help!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     -Troy A. Griffitts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, John Jacques wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the response!  The final sigma is " (double
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quote) and my
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> confusion about saving a new list was the pop-up hint for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the save
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> button (which says "Help").  It all works now...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are interested in programming help, let me know.  I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> am a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> programmer (embedded Linux/Real Time) so most of my
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience is OS
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> porting and device drivers but I have written a fair
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount of Java
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (~7,000 lines) including a Swing GUI.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2004-07-17 at 07:02, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John, I believe that final sigma is the ' key.  Did you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type a filename
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the filename box before you hit save?  I realize this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orthodox method for saving a new file, but it's a first
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rev of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software.  Please let me know if this information hasn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helped get you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     -Troy A. Griffitts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Jacques wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all, thank you for a wonderful program!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I can't seem
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get FlashEditor.jar to save any of the changes I make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or let me enter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sigma (the end of word sigma that is)...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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