[sword-devel] Accusations...

Jonathan Hughes sword-devel@crosswire.org
05 Jan 2003 12:48:08 +0000

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Hey Guys,

	I think we need to be careful with how we react to this because we do
not want to go on the offense and start attacking Larry Pierce or the
Online Bible. That is not a Christ like response. We need to see what is
really bothering Larry and company and see what we can do to alleviate
the problems. It looks like Troy has already started to do this.
	I have some questions for Troy or anyone that might know the answers
(Chris?). I am trying to get a complete picture of this:

Where did Larry get his works?=20

How did he get the NIV and NKJV, etc. in electronic form?=20

How did we get the tools to convert the OLB modules to SWORD modules?
(We would have to know the format of the OLB modules to make a tool to
convert between the two, how did we find out the OLB format)

How did we get the modules if Troy never had the OLB CD?=20

As far as you know what modules did we convert from OLB modules?

-Jonathan Hughes

On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 03:31, Christian Renz wrote:
> This info came just in via the support list (sorry for the full
> quote, but I think not everybody is in that list):
> On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 08:23:13PM -0600, Levey wrote:
> >I have followed your work for years and occasionally look at your source=
> >try one of your projects.  I used to mostly use the Online Bible, which =
> >thanked in your online materials, and now mostly the eSword program.
> >
> >I was surprised then to find a "hall of shame" on their site listing you
> >(and eSword) as villains who are stealing their work (
> >http://www.onlinebible.net/hallofshame.html ).  What gives here?  I thou=
> >you had permission -- or none was needed -- to use their files.  Could y=
> >please comment on this.  They are using strong language towards you: "Sw=
> >Project. Troy blatantly lifted all the material from the Online Bible CD=
> >then claimed it as public domain. We have a registered copyright with th=
> >Library of Congress which states otherwise. Troy is running a "Bible
> >Society" founded on stolen material."
> >
> >Please give me your input on this.  I'm really surprised they have taken
> >this stance.  So far as I know you do not distribute locked modules and =
> >not a commercial enterprise.
> >
> >Thanks.  Paul Levey.
> I guess it would be good to react to this _quickly_. Do we still have
> a large number of modules created out of OLB sources? These days, most
> files seem to be created out of electronic plain texts independent of
> OLB, making the claim somewhat pointless. Or might they be referring
> to the locked NIV etc. modules?
> Greetings,
>    Christian
> --=20
> crenz@web42.com - http://www.web42.com/crenz/ - http://www.web42.com/
> "A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not
> know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad
> people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived
> a sheltered life by always giving in."  -- C.S. Lewis

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