[sword-devel] newbie problem making a module

Daniel Adams - infoChi sword-devel@crosswire.org
Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:33:15 -0700

I agree with that. Myself, I write Christian Articles in which I use the
Sword project to help me with it. I also help with Sword in some ways.
Granted, I could go page by page through all of the books that I use when I
am writing a paper (Which would be the , but instead, I prefer to use Sword
and other Bible tools that are available because it makes it easier. The
word easier might indicate why people like GUIs better.

In Him,
Daniel Adams - danpadams@infomagic.net

  1 Peter 4:10 (NIV)-  Each one should use whatever gift he has received to
serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
[mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Daniel Blake
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 6:08 PM
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] newbie problem making a module

My last post was decidedly one sided.  I agree completely.  There are some
things that command line tools just do better.

For the normal user the better tool normally doesn't get used.  They don't
care how many extra steps the interface makes them take as long as the trip
to the end result is "smoother" for them.

Daniel Blake

> On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 06:35:18PM -0400, Daniel Blake wrote:
> > I don't understand the mindset that refuses to acknowledge the
usefulness of
> > tools that have a user interface. GUI's are necessary for the average
> > to create modules we could all benefit from. There are many people I
> > that have knowledge from God that would be beneficial to the rest of us.
> > Most, if not all, of these people would never even consider making a
> > using the current method.
> >
> > I think we need to examine who we are creating The Sword Project for.
> > module creation tools that exist are GREAT if we want to remain some
> > Group of computer guru's. If The Sword Project is really being made to
> > used by "regular" people then we need to make tools that "regular"
> > can and will use.
> > I'm not trying to start the command line / GUI holy wars. Let's just
take an
> > unbiased look at this topic and see what the best solution would be.
> Point taken.
> nevertheless, I regularly chafe at windows users who find the most
> convoluted ways to do things that could be done at a commandline with
> a few keystrokes. Why? either because they don't understand the ins-and-
> outs of their tools, or because the gui itself makes some things hard
> to do efficiently.
> One of the customer support people at work, last week, said she had to
> ftp 120 files to a customer, was having trouble with the gui ftp client
> she would prefer to use. So I suggested she just open a DOS window and
> use the (crummy but working) MS ftp client. She threw a minor fit that
> I'd even suggest using manual ftp to send 120 files. She didn't seem to
> think about how easy it really is:
> ftp remote-system
> cd destdir
> binary
> prompt
> mput *.*
> which is probably much easier than all the clicking and navigting you need
> to do to send 120 files in a gui cleint.
> --
> ---- Fred Smith --
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>                         The Lord is like a strong tower.
>              Those who do what is right can run to him for safety.
> --------------------------- Proverbs 18:10
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