[sword-devel] kjv2003: some words translated with a preposition

Benjamin Norman sword-devel@crosswire.org
Wed, 04 Dec 2002 10:19:40 -0500

mea culpa,

Having done a few chapters since this verse and having reviewed my Greek 
grammar book for exactly this question: 'than' should go with the 
genitive word, as was your first inclination :). I will change this, 
thanks for bringing that to my attention. I would be interested in any 
further issues in my proofing of Hebrews so if you want something more 
to do, why not second proof any green chapters on the status page? 
(hopefully you won't find much more in mine after chapter 2 but if you 
do so much the better, I can be humble about it O:)

This goes for all you other lurkers out there not feeling able to take 
responsibility for a whole book or chapter. The Greek to English leaves 
a lot of room for discussion and I don't mind being peer reviewed :) 
especially if it means a better more useful tool for others, in fact I 
want it. I have second guessed myself much along the way (ie should 
non-declined words like the Hebrew words in Greek {like melchisedek} be 
tagged with English prepositions like 'of'... which later examples 
indicates yes, otherwise you get into strange situations) ... if you 
want to review and document the norms we all are using for use in the 
guidelines to help others while you are at it /even better/!

I have a question for the list: in Heb 5:12 there is 'which {FI}be{Fi}' 
... /what/ is _which_ supposed to be marked with? Nothing I tried to 
match it to with seemed right, and I left it unmarked until further 
inspiration. So far it has stumped Troy and myself (sorry Troy ;).

humbly yours,

Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
> I noticed that in Heb 1:4 "kreittoon toon aggeloon" is tagged so that
> "kreittoon" is "better than" and "toon aggeloon" is "the angels". First
> I thought that it was a mistake. After all "than" is included only when
> the substantive is in genitive. but then I noticed I have a similar
> problem in Jude. In v. 24 "katenoopion" is "in the presence of" even in
> the dictionary. However, "of" belongs to it only in some circumstances
> and thus would belong to "glory".
> So, which one is better? I would add "of" to "glory".
>   Sincerely Yours,
>       Eeli Kaikkonen <eekaikko@paju.oulu.fi> Suomi Finland