[osis-core] osisCore.1.9
Patrick Durusau
osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:03:15 -0400
Troy,
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Patrick,
> Actually, I don't feel that it preserves Lockman's data. They have
> specifically marked a 'Paragraph Break'. A 3rd party observing a:
>
> <lb/>
> or
> <milestone type="x-lineBreak"/>
>
> would not be expected to understand this to be a 'Paragraph Break'.
>
Agree, that is why I suggested the milestone solution.
> My best solution would be to allow <p/> Which would convey exactly the
> intent of Lockman.
>
> I could live with:
>
> <milestone type="p">
>
> (which is currently INVALID as well (I tried it)), but if we change the
> schema, I would rather allow my 'best' vote, rather than this.
>
From the standpoint of XML syntax (which may explain in part our
divergence on this issue) <p/> = <milestone type="p"/> or rather
<milestone type="x-p"/>. There is no difference in those two, well, the
GI (generic identifier) that is the "p" or "milestone" differ but the
semantics are the same.
In other words, I think <milestone type="x-p"/> captures the intent of
Lockman, which is to indicate a paragraph break at that location in the
text.
> I can encode, but think it is against the OSIS 1.0 goal of PROVIDING
> mechanisms to allow at least mainstream Bible publishers (of which
> Lockman is probably in the top 3) to encode their Bible, using:
>
> <milestone type="x-p" />
>
Why is this contrary to allowing them to encode their Bible? I have not
seen the underlying code but assume that from the manner in which you
describe your encoding, they have chosen another hierarchy other than
book/chapter/paragraph. That is a legitimate choice but is at variance
with our decision to make other hierarchies give way to that one.
Granted that means that what Lockman may "think" is the most natural way
to convert their text does not work but so would book/chapter/verse for
publishers who go the other way. At some point, unfortunately with the
present state of XML, one has to pick a hierarchy and stick with it. All
others must give way.
If you think you are disappointed by that, imagine how I feel after a
decade of working on overlapping hierarchies and there are still no
standard implementations for what is probably the most common cases,
like paragraphs that cross page boundaries. Not to mention more
complicated cases.
Hope you are having a great day!
Patrick
> I'm not sure I've heard anything else to consider, at this point.
>
> -Troy.
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Durusau wrote:
>
>> Troy,
>>
>> Catching up on OSIS mail!
>>
>> Does Todd's suggestion(s) work for you?
>>
>> In terms of preservation of what you got for conversion, I think the
>> milestone suggestion is the better of the two.
>>
>> Hope you are having a great day!
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
>>
>>> Troy,
>>>
>>> Because you intent is to mark a point rather than a container and
>>> because <p> is intended as a "container" either in the xml sense or in
>>> the milestone start and end sense, I would suggest that you use <lb/>
>>> with a type="x-lineBreak". Alternatively you could use <milestone/>
>>> with a type. Todd
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
>>>> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. Griffitts
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 3:00 PM
>>>> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [osis-core] osisCore.1.9
>>>>
>>>> Todd,
>>>> Thanks for that insight, and I do now vaguely remember
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> reluctantly
>>>
>>>> conceding to that point.
>>>>
>>>> However, please notice that I am not providing paragraph
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> containers.
>>>
>>>> The data files that I received only provide, what they call:
>>>>
>>>> <PM> New paragraph marker
>>>>
>>>> Which I thought I was changing into a similar OSIS semantic:
>>>> <p /> I did not wish (at the current time, at least) to attempt to
>>>> overly my assumptions regarding paragraph containers on the converted
>>>> document. Only wanted to faithfully record the given data as OSIS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> markup.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Was this intended to be disallowed? Should it be allowed?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Troy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Troy,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I did not see the sample you provided in the original post.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem with <p> is that it is a child of <verse> which is not
>>>>> allowed.
>>>>>
>>>>> With the release of OSIS 1.5 we agreed that if there are going to be
>>>>> section and/or paragraph structures and not a simple
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> book/chapter/verse
>>>
>>>>> hierarchy that best practice requires that <p> be the container and
>>>>> <verse> be a milestone when there is an overlap between the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> hierarchies.
>>>
>>>>> The schema reflects the best practice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Todd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
>>>>>> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. Griffitts
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:18 AM
>>>>>> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [osis-core] osisCore.1.9
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Todd,
>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion. We've exchanged the first error for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> one. Here's the output and excerpts from the pertinent files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Error at line:3, column:44 of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> file:///space/home/scribe/msv/./nasb.xml
>>>
>>>>>> unexpected attribute "lang"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Error at line:17, column:6 of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> file:///space/home/scribe/msv/./nasb.xml
>>>
>>>>>> tag name "p" is not allowed. Possible tag names are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> <a>,<abbr>,<chapter>,<date>,<divineName>,<foreign>,<hi>,<index>,<inscrip
>>>
>>>>> ti
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> on>,<lb>,<list>,<mentioned>,<milestone>,<milestoneEnd>,<milestoneStart>,
>>>
>>>>> <n
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ame>,<note>,<q>,<reference>,<seg>,<speaker>,<title>,<transChange>,<w>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Error at line:22, column:6 of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> file:///space/home/scribe/msv/./nasb.xml
>>>
>>>>>> tag name "p" is not allowed. Possible tag names are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> <a>,<abbr>,<chapter>,<date>,<divineName>,<foreign>,<hi>,<index>,<inscrip
>>>
>>>>> ti
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> on>,<lb>,<list>,<mentioned>,<milestone>,<milestoneEnd>,<milestoneStart>,
>>>
>>>>> <n
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ame>,<note>,<q>,<reference>,<seg>,<speaker>,<title>,<transChange>,<w>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nasb.xml:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>>>>> <osis xmlns="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace"
>>>>>> xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace
>>>
>>>>>> osisCore.1.9.xsd">
>>>>>> <osisText osisIDWork="nasb" lang="en">
>>>>>> <header>
>>>>>> <work osisWork="nasb">
>>>>>> <title>NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE</title>
>>>>>> <identifier type="OSIS">Bible.NASB</identifier>
>>>>>> <rights>Copyright (C)
>>>>>> 1960,1962,1963,1968,1971,1972,1973,1975,1977,1995 by THE LOCKMAN
>>>>>> FOUNDATION</rights>
>>>>>> <refSystem>Bible</refSystem>
>>>>>> </work>
>>>>>> </header>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <div type="book" osisID="Matt"><title type="main"
>>>>>> subType="x-Book">MATTHEW</title>
>>>>>> <chapter osisID="Matt.1"><title type="sub"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> subType="x-Chapter">CHAPTER
>>>
>>>>>> 1</title><title type="sub" subType="x-Section">The Genealogy of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> Jesus
>>>
>>>>>> the Messiah</title><verse osisID="Matt.1.1"><w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G976">The <note type="explanation"
>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.1.note.1" n="1"></note>record</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1078">of the genealogy</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2424">of <note type="explanation"
>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.1.note.2" n="2"></note>Jesus</w> <note
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> type="explanation"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.1.note.3" n="3"></note><w lemma="x-Strongs:G5547">the
>>>>>> Messiah</w>, <note type="crossReference" osisID="Matt.1.1.xref.A"
>>>>>> n="A"></note><w lemma="x-Strongs:G5207">the son</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1160b">of David</w>, <note type="crossReference"
>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.1.xref.B" n="B"></note><w lemma="x-Strongs:G5207">the
>>>>>> son</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G11">of Abraham</w>:
>>>>>> <p /></verse><verse osisID="Matt.1.2"><w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G11">Abraham</w> <note type="explanation"
>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.2.note.1" n="1"></note><w lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2464">of Isaac</w>, <note
>>>>>> type="explanation" osisID="Matt.1.2.note.2" n="2"></note><w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2464">Isaac</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">the
>>>>>> father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2384">of Jacob</w>, <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2384">and Jacob</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">the
>>>>>> father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2455">of <note type="explanation"
>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.2.note.3" n="3"></note>Judah</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G80">and his brothers</w>.</verse><verse
>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.3"><w lemma="x-Strongs:G2455">Judah</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was the father</w> <w
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G5329">of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Perez</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2196">and Zerah</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2283">by Tamar</w>, <note type="crossReference"
>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.3.xref.A" n="A"></note><w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G5329">Perez</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was the
>>>>>> father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2074">of Hezron</w>, <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2074">and Hezron</w> <w
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">the
>>>
>>>>>> father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G689">of <note type="explanation"
>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.3.note.1" n="1"></note>Ram</w>.
>>>>>> </verse><verse osisID="Matt.1.4"><w lemma="x-Strongs:G689">Ram</w>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> <w
>>>
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was the father</w> <w
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G284">of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Amminadab</w>, <w lemma="x-Strongs:G284">Amminadab</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">the father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G3476">of
>>>>>> Nahshon</w>, <w lemma="x-Strongs:G3476">and Nahshon</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">the father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G4533">of
>>>>>> Salmon</w>.
>>>>>> </verse><verse osisID="Matt.1.5"><w
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G4533">Salmon</w>
>>>
>>>>>> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was the father</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1003">of Boaz</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G4460">by
>>>>>> Rahab</w>, <w lemma="x-Strongs:G1003">Boaz</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was the father</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2492b">of Obed</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G4503">by
>>>>>> Ruth</w>, <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2492b">and Obed</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">the father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2421">of
>>>>>> Jesse</w>.
>>>>>> </verse><verse osisID="Matt.1.6"><w
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2421">Jesse</w>
>>>
>>>>> <w
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was the father</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1160b">of David</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G935">the
>>>>>> king</w>.
>>>>>> <p /> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G1160b">David</w> <note
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> type="crossReference"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.6.xref.A" n="A"></note><w lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G4672">of Solomon</w> <w
>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1135">by <note type="explanation"
>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.6.note.1" n="1"></note>Bathsheba who had been the
>>>>>> wife</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G3774">of Uriah</w>.
>>>>>> </verse>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> osisCore.xsd:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>^M
>>>>>> <xs:schema
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> targetNamespace="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace"
>>>>>
>>>>>> xmlns="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace"
>>>>>> xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
>>>>>> elementFormDefault="qualified" attributeFormDefault="unqualified"
>>>>>> xml:lang="en">^M
>>>>>> <xs:import namespace="http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace"
>>>>>> schemaLocation="http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd"/>^M
>>>>>> <xs:annotation>^M
>>>>>> <xs:documentation>^M
>>>>>> <p>This is the OSIS 1.8.X schema and is a revision
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>>>> the OSIS 1.5 schema. There have been a number of changes and
>>>>>> modifications to make the schema more flexible.</p>^M
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try the following in you XML document (with whatever and wherever
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> have osisCore.1.9.xsd):
>>>>>>> <osis xmlns="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace"
>>>>>>> xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace
>>>
>>>>>>> osisCore.1.9.xsd">
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AND
>>>>>>> Change elementFormDefault="unqualified" to
>>>>>>> elementFormDefault="qualified" in osisCore.1.9.xsd.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This should take care of things and is what you should see with the
>>>>>>> final release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Todd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
>>>>>>>> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. Griffitts
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 2:07 AM
>>>>>>>> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [osis-core] osisCore.1.9
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>> Trying to validate a document against last posted schema
>>>>>>>> results
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> few errors from the latest version of Sun's MultiSchemaValidator.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Error at line:2, column:7 of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> file:///space/home/scribe/msv/nasb.xml
>>>
>>>>>>>> namespace URI of tag "osis" is wrong. It must be
>>>>>>>> "http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Error at line:17, column:6 of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> file:///space/home/scribe/msv/nasb.xml
>>>
>>>>>>>> tag name "p" is not allowed. Possible tag names are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> <a>,<abbr>,<chapter>,<date>,<divineName>,<foreign>,<hi>,<index>,<inscrip
>>>
>>>>>>> ti
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> on>,<lb>,<list>,<mentioned>,<milestone>,<milestoneEnd>,<milestoneStart>,
>>>
>>>>>>> <n
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ame>,<note>,<q>,<reference>,<seg>,<speaker>,<title>,<transChange>,<w>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Error at line:22, column:6 of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> file:///space/home/scribe/msv/nasb.xml
>>>
>>>>>>>> tag name "p" is not allowed. Possible tag names are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> <a>,<abbr>,<chapter>,<date>,<divineName>,<foreign>,<hi>,<index>,<inscrip
>>>
>>>>>>> ti
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> on>,<lb>,<list>,<mentioned>,<milestone>,<milestoneEnd>,<milestoneStart>,
>>>
>>>>>>> <n
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ame>,<note>,<q>,<reference>,<seg>,<speaker>,<title>,<transChange>,<w>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is an excerpt of the doc:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>>>>>>> <osis>
>>>>>>>> <osisText osisIDWork="nasb" lang="en">
>>>>>>>> <header>
>>>>>>>> <work osisWork="nasb">
>>>>>>>> <title>NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE</title>
>>>>>>>> <identifier
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> type="OSIS">Bible.NASB</identifier>
>>>
>>>>>>>> <rights>Copyright (C)
>>>>>>>> 1960,1962,1963,1968,1971,1972,1973,1975,1977,1995 by THE LOCKMAN
>>>>>>>> FOUNDATION</rights>
>>>>>>>> <refSystem>Bible</refSystem>
>>>>>>>> </work>
>>>>>>>> </header>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <div type="book" osisID="Matt"><title type="main"
>>>>>>>> subType="x-Book">MATTHEW</title>
>>>>>>>> <chapter osisID="Matt.1"><title type="sub"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> subType="x-Chapter">CHAPTER
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1</title>
>>>>>>>> <title type="sub" subType="x-Section">The Genealogy of Jesus the
>>>>>>>> Messiah</title>
>>>>>>>> <verse osisID="Matt.1.1"><w lemma="x-Strongs:G976">The <note
>>>>>>>> type="explanation" osisID="Matt.1.1.note.1"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> n="1"></note>record</w>
>>>
>>>>> <w
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1078">of the genealogy</w> <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2424">of <note type="explanation"
>>>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.1.note.2" n="2"></note>Jesus</w> <note
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> type="explanation"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.1.note.3" n="3"></note><w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G5547">the
>>>
>>>>>>>> Messiah</w>, <note type="crossReference" osisID="Matt.1.1.xref.A"
>>>>>>>> n="A"></note><w lemma="x-Strongs:G5207">the son</w> <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1160b">of David</w>, <note type="crossReference"
>>>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.1.xref.B" n="B"></note><w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G5207">the
>>>
>>>>>>>> son</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G11">of Abraham</w>:
>>>>>>>> <p /></verse><verse osisID="Matt.1.2"><w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G11">Abraham</w> <note type="explanation"
>>>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.2.note.1" n="1"></note><w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was
>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2464">of Isaac</w>, <note
>>>>>>>> type="explanation" osisID="Matt.1.2.note.2" n="2"></note><w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2464">Isaac</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">the
>>>>>>>> father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2384">of Jacob</w>, <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2384">and Jacob</w> <w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">the
>>>
>>>>>>>> father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2455">of <note type="explanation"
>>>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.2.note.3" n="3"></note>Judah</w> <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G80">and his brothers</w>.
>>>>>>>> </verse><verse osisID="Matt.1.3"><w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2455">Judah</w>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> <w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was the father</w> <w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G5329">of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perez</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2196">and Zerah</w> <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2283">by Tamar</w>, <note type="crossReference"
>>>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.3.xref.A" n="A"></note><w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G5329">Perez</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>>>>> father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2074">of Hezron</w>, <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2074">and Hezron</w> <w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G689">of <note type="explanation"
>>>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.3.note.1" n="1"></note>Ram</w>.
>>>>>>>> </verse><verse osisID="Matt.1.4"><w lemma="x-Strongs:G689">Ram</w>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> <w
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was the father</w> <w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G284">of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Amminadab</w>, <w lemma="x-Strongs:G284">Amminadab</w> <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">the father</w> <w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G3476">of
>>>
>>>>>>>> Nahshon</w>, <w lemma="x-Strongs:G3476">and Nahshon</w> <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">the father</w> <w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G4533">of
>>>
>>>>>>>> Salmon</w>.
>>>>>>>> </verse><verse osisID="Matt.1.5"><w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G4533">Salmon</w>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was the father</w> <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1003">of Boaz</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G4460">by
>>>>>>>> Rahab</w>, <w lemma="x-Strongs:G1003">Boaz</w> <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was the father</w> <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2492b">of Obed</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G4503">by
>>>>>>>> Ruth</w>, <w lemma="x-Strongs:G2492b">and Obed</w> <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">the father</w> <w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2421">of
>>>
>>>>>>>> Jesse</w>.
>>>>>>>> </verse><verse osisID="Matt.1.6"><w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G2421">Jesse</w>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> <w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was the father</w> <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1160b">of David</w> <w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G935">the
>>>
>>>>>>>> king</w>.
>>>>>>>> <p /> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G1160b">David</w> <note
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> type="crossReference"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.6.xref.A" n="A"></note><w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1080">was
>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> father</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G4672">of Solomon</w> <w
>>>>>>>> lemma="x-Strongs:G1135">by <note type="explanation"
>>>>>>>> osisID="Matt.1.6.note.1" n="1"></note>Bathsheba who had been the
>>>>>>>> wife</w> <w lemma="x-Strongs:G3774">of Uriah</w>.
>>>>>>>> </verse>
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patrick Durusau wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Version 1.9, along with a draft of the users manual is attached.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that the users manual is very rough and I have included the XML
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> along with an HTML rendering.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Suggest that if you have changes to the users manual, send me XML
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> conforms to the TEIxLite DTD so I can paste it in more easily.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Schema has some cleaning up to be done, but I have redone the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> osisID
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Type to use the list mechanism Todd suggested for osisRefs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> Should
>>>
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> backwards compatible on that score.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Couple of things to look for in the docs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Should we drop discussion of fall-back on resolving
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> references?
>>>
>>>>>>> Not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> really relevant to the beginning user.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. Should we drop the complete relator list and either point to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> host a copy on the OSIS site?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3. Does the manual appear to take you through encoding a text?
>>>>>>>>> Suggestions for how to make it more that way?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Should be working on the schema and users manual for the next six
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> save for teleconferences and a couple of reports I can't get out
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> of,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> comment early and often.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are almost there with a very robust release plus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> documentation!
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can't tell you how proud I am of all the work you have done on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>>>>>>> project!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, at 11+ for today so about to stop for the night.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hope everyone is having a great evening!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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Patrick Durusau
Director of Research and Development
Society of Biblical Literature
Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org
Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model
Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!