[osis-core] proposal: <cite> for OT Quote in NT

[Chris Little]

Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

>     I would like to suggest that we add, e.g. <cite 
> osisRef="abednahr">text of the citation</cite>

These semantics for <cite> are different from those of the HTML element 
of the same name, but operate within the same domain, inviting 
confusion.  HTML <cite> marks a citation in the sense of a reference, 
not the content being copied.  (I strongly dislike this proposal in 
general, but could really not live with using this element name in 
particular for this reason.)

>     This new element would designate to a segment of text: allusion to 
> or excerpt from, and assign credit to, a source, WITHOUT the libel 
> implications of, and asserting the author is claiming, a direct quotation.

Sounds like you're setting up <q> as necessarily being direct quotation 
and <cite> as being possibly direct, possibly indirect.  Basically, this 
just adds a layer of ambiguity.  Every <q> could be replaced by a 
<cite>, but not vice versa.  The only distinction to you seems to be 
that using <q> results in rendering with quotation marks--not a 
distinction based on content, but on rendering.

Perhaps we've got differing concepts of what <q> stands for.  It could 
stand for "quote" or "quotation".  I think you're reading it as "quote" 
in the sense of "quotation marks".  I read it as either "quote" in the 
sense of "quotation" or as "quotation" itself.  I really don't 
understand the great importance you're putting on the presentation of 
quotation marks.

>     Also, note that I have not claimed <q> and <cite> to be mutually 
> exclusive for a segment of text.  I can imagine something like this:

<q> can, of course, also recurse.

--Chris