[osis-core] Re: <div type="group"> and Deut.33

Todd Tillinghast osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:08:50 -0600


Patrick,

I can't think anything better than "group".  It IS a lot like section,
subSection, and majorSection as they are all divisions in the text.  In
this case a smaller division in the text with a different meaning.

I am open to a different name if you can think of one (although it will
be hard to find a name as short).

I am also open to abandoning the proposal and waiting to see what sort
of needs arise.  It will still be possible to do the same thing with
<div> (with not type attribute) and <div type="x-group">, BUT it is
fairly low cost to add "group" to osisDivs.

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org 
> [mailto:osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of 
> Patrick Durusau
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:26 AM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: Re: [osis-core] Re: <div type="group"> and Deut.33
> 
> 
> Todd,
> 
> Can you offer a more specific term than group? Sounds a lot like 
> section, majorSection, or subSection. Can you offer a term that 
> distinguishes how it would be used as opposed to one of the others?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Hope you are having a great day!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> 
> >All,
> >
> >Kirk, thanks for the feed back on the Hebrew.
> >
> >Actually this is not the CEV but anther text that I got through Kees.
> >
> >>From what you are saying it would seem most appropriate to 
> encode this
> >section as a <lg>.
> >
> >Does anyone have an interest in adding "group" to osisDivs 
> anyway for 
> >divisions in the text that would be contained in a <div 
> >type="section">, <div type="subSection">, <speech>, etc... 
> when <lg>, 
> ><list>, <p>, etc... are not appropoate?
> >
> >Todd
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core- 
> >>admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Kirk Lowery
> >>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:22 PM
> >>To: Todd Tillinghast
> >>Cc: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org; Kees de Blois
> >>Subject: [osis-core] Re: <div type="group"> and Deut.33
> >>
> >>Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>In Deut.33 there a number of "lines" that are grouped together.
> >>>
> >>>Kirk can you comment to any special nature of Deut.33 in the Hebrew
> >>>      
> >>>
> >that
> >  
> >
> >>>would make it natural to translate it as groups of "lines"?
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>This is traditionally considered "poetry", since Moses is 
> "blessing" 
> >>the people. In the printed Hebrew Bible (BHS), the text is 
> formated as 
> >>poetry, which indicates the editors' opinion about the 
> nature of the 
> >>literature in that chapter.
> >>
> >>So, without looking at the CEV, I would say it is likely the 
> >>translators are doing the same. But it is not "pure" 
> poetry, and there 
> >>are embedded "narratives": each tribe is blessed. So the 
> translators 
> >>may be grouping the text around that literary structure.
> >>
> >>Hard to say without the CEV in front of me....
> >>
> >>Blessings,
> >>
> >>Kirk
> >>--
> >>Kirk E. Lowery, Ph.D.
> >>Director, Westminster Hebrew Institute
> >>Adjunct Professor of Old Testament
> >>Westminster Theological Seminary, Philadelphia
> >>
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