[osis-core] open issues

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Todd,
	Couple issues:
		1) quotes in this example where the problem tag.  What if phrase 
linquistic annotation or critical markup are the problem in the future. 
  You solution to make the problem tag a milestone is good, and is, in 
theory, exactly what I'm suggesting, only allow any tag to become a 
milestone, if necessary.

	2)  Write me something that easily gives me the contents of verse 2. 
Segmentation seems complex to achieve a goal I've yet to understand.


SIDENOTE: why do we have next/prev?  Are we assuming that segments may 
be out of order?



Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> Is there an end to the quote that starts with "Thus".
> 
> If I got your example correctly how about the following seem to you.
> <p>
> 	<verse verseID="1">Then God said, <qStart qID="1" level="1"/>Say to my
> people: <qStart qID="1" level="2"/>Thus says the LORD, <qStart qID="1"
> level="3"/>Repent! </verse>
> 	<verse verseID="2" next="2@word:5(How)">You backsliding markup
> authors.<qEnd qID="1" level="3"/></verse>
> <p>
> 	<verse verseID="2@word:5(How)" prev="2">How often have I desired to give
> you a good markup. </verse>
> 	<verse verseID="3">But you were unwilling.</verse>
> </p>
> 
> The example you give seems to support the notion that if quotes are treated
> using milestones that other overlapping hierarchies are fairly easy to
> support with segmentation assuming you do the trick with the "role" for
> verse like behavior.  (Still no milestones for verses.)
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
>>[mailto:owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org]On Behalf Of Troy A.
>>Griffitts
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:30 PM
>>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
>>Subject: [osis-core] open issues
>>
>>
>>Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but most all of my issues brought up
>>in my last messages are still on the table:
>>
>>archive, if anyone needs the old messages:
>>
>>http://www.bibletechnologieswg.org/cgi-bin/lwgate/OSIS-CORE%40BIBL
> 
> ETECHNOLOGIESWG.ORG/archives/
> 
>>Not wanting to be a wrench in the works, but I still feel our gears are
>>turning fast down a wrong path.
>>
>>Specifically: segmentation isn't elegant and we can't anticipate all
>>overlapping cases.  Try a few verses from a Prophetic text (e.g. Ez
>>39:1-) e.g (not from Ez).
>>
>>1. Then God said, "Say to my people: 'Thus says the LORD, "Repent! 2.
>>You backsliding markup authors."
>>	How often have I desired to give you a good markup. 3. But you were
>>unwilling.
>>
>>
>>Try to add phrase level annotation, critical markup and other tags to
>>that and you have no hope of a human understanding or getting it right,
>>muchless our schema to allow such things.  Anything can be forced to
>>work.  I just don't see why our milestone approach wasn't about 3000x
>>more elegant.
>>
>>Or even my unanswered suggestion of a having all tags allowed to be used
>>2 ways with a global 'milestone' attribute (kindof like Todd is
>>suggesting with roles, but not exactly).
>>
>>global attributes mStart and mEnd
>>
>>That would allow 2 types of markup.  All tags to either be used as:
>>
>>XML Container:
>><verse ID="Gen.1.1">In the beginning</verse>
>>
>>or
>>
>>XML Milestone / Logical Container
>><verse ID="Gen.1.1" mStart="uniqueID1" />In the beginning<verse
>>mEnd="uniqueID1" />
>>
>>
>>
>>