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Won't these kinds of things get fixed by updates of Windows 8 and JQuery?
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I had a look at a friend's WIndow 8 tablet yesterday for the first time.
Cool. <br>
Makes my XP Tablet look clunky. <br>
It is very new, and was probably brought out in a hurry in time for
CHristmas.<br><br>
David IB<br><br>
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At 21:13 03/12/2012, John Hutton wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Chris - <br>
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I raised an issue (#424) against the two column improvement.<br>
<br>
Thanks, John<br>
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Sent from my Windows Surface RT...<br>
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Today's Topics:<br><br>
1. Initial Look in "Windows Surface RT - Win8"
(John Hutton)<br>
2. Re: Initial Look in "Windows Surface RT - Win8"
(Chris Burrell)<br><br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 23:58:31 +0000<br>
From: John Hutton
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Subject: [tyndale-devel] Initial Look in "Windows Surface RT -
Win8"<br>
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Hi All -<br><br>
Just trying to get back to doing some work on the program and thought
I<br>
would try to do a early look at how STEPs performs on a Win8 RT
Tablet.<br><br>
I?m afraid I could not do much checking.<br><br>
The initial links to the documentation appear to be missing (gave me<br>
errors).<br><br>
Under the windows8 RT OS, none of the gui interactions work
correctly.<br>
When I click on a translation, instead of a pulldown I get a text
entry<br>
field. When I click on the ?view? or ?tools?, it only pops up the
menu<br>
while I?m touching the button, but will not pop it up so I can make
a<br>
selection. Bible verse selection is also a ?type? only field
(although it<br>
seems to have a selectable popup).<br><br>
This does seem to work with a mouse on the tablet, so it may be simply
some<br>
high level changes that are needed to work with the ?touch?
interface.<br><br>
I also tried this on my Windows Phone 7.5 (where it would be very useful
to<br>
me as well), with limited success. Even the single column layout
doesn?t<br>
seem to fit well on the screen (popups show up off screen).<br><br>
Two other general comments:<br><br>
In two screen mode, could each side keep track of the type of info it
is<br>
looking at? The most common way I would use the tool would be to
have a<br>
bible translation on the left and a commentary on the right. I
found that<br>
both columns assume the ?last? selection, so if I want to change bibles
and<br>
commentaries after each other it takes more clicks. I could,
however, see<br>
use models for the current method, so this many only be a personal
style<br>
thing.<br><br>
Secondly, I would love to be able to have the second column be an
editor<br>
where I could record things like sermon notes. Is there anything
like that<br>
in the plan?<br><br>
Thanks!<br><br>
John<br><br>
Sent from Windows Mail<br>
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Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:21:21 +0000<br>
From: Chris Burrell
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Subject: Re: [tyndale-devel] Initial Look in "Windows Surface RT
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Hi John<br><br>
Thanks for all those comments. As you'll have seen we haven't
targetted<br>
Windows Surfaces yet. This is in the pipeline when we start
targetting<br>
mobile devices. In particular, all the autocompletes will be likely<br>
transformed into normal dropdowns to harness the native OS
features.<br><br>
In terms of the comments about the bibles/commentaries selection. Do
you<br>
mean that each column should remember its own selection? If so, I
think<br>
that is a sensible improvement. Could I ask you to raise this in our
JIRA<br>
instance:<br>
<a href="https://stepweb.atlassian.net/secure/TaskBoard.jspa?type=TB&selectedProjectId=10040&selectedBoardId=11750&start=0under">
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the version 1.1<br><br>
On the final note, about capturing a personal commentary, etc. Yes we
have<br>
plans for this, but don't know which form this will take yet. Probably
a<br>
number of forms including being able to tie your comments to
particular<br>
verses, passages, etc. As well as a social aspect, e.g. sharing
comments<br>
with a facebook group, google circles, or your small group at
church.<br><br>
Thanks!<br>
Chris<br><br>
<br><br>
On 23 November 2012 23:58, John Hutton
<<a href="mailto:john.f.hutton@gmail.com">john.f.hutton@gmail.com</a>
> wrote:<br><br>
> Hi All -<br>
><br>
> Just trying to get back to doing some work on the program and
thought I<br>
> would try to do a early look at how STEPs performs on a Win8 RT
Tablet.<br>
><br>
> I?m afraid I could not do much checking.<br>
><br>
> The initial links to the documentation appear to be missing (gave
me<br>
> errors).<br>
><br>
> Under the windows8 RT OS, none of the gui interactions work
correctly.<br>
> When I click on a translation, instead of a pulldown I get a text
entry<br>
> field. When I click on the ?view? or ?tools?, it only pops up
the menu<br>
> while I?m touching the button, but will not pop it up so I can make
a<br>
> selection. Bible verse selection is also a ?type? only field
(although it<br>
> seems to have a selectable popup).<br>
><br>
> This does seem to work with a mouse on the tablet, so it may be
simply<br>
> some high level changes that are needed to work with the ?touch?
interface.<br>
><br>
> I also tried this on my Windows Phone 7.5 (where it would be very
useful<br>
> to me as well), with limited success. Even the single column
layout<br>
> doesn?t seem to fit well on the screen (popups show up off
screen).<br>
><br>
> Two other general comments:<br>
><br>
> In two screen mode, could each side keep track of the type of info
it is<br>
> looking at? The most common way I would use the tool would be
to have a<br>
> bible translation on the left and a commentary on the right. I
found that<br>
> both columns assume the ?last? selection, so if I want to change
bibles and<br>
> commentaries after each other it takes more clicks. I could,
however, see<br>
> use models for the current method, so this many only be a personal
style<br>
> thing.<br>
><br>
> Secondly, I would love to be able to have the second column be an
editor<br>
> where I could record things like sermon notes. Is there
anything like that<br>
> in the plan?<br>
><br>
> Thanks!<br>
><br>
> John<br>
><br>
> Sent from Windows Mail<br>
><br>
><br>
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