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<p>Dear Tobias,</p>
<p>I would recommend KJVA, so you can get the Apocrypha. I believe
this is the common base Костя uses to convert between systems.
Костя has done a great job at optimization. I've updated the
verseconvert.cpp example to allow ranges. Here is a timing for
the entire book of Psalms:</p>
<p>[scribe@localhost classes]$ time ./verseconvert Ps Wycliffe
FreGeneve1669 > /dev/null<br>
<br>
real 0m0.195s<br>
user 0m0.162s<br>
sys 0m0.033s<br>
</p>
<p>My guess is that most of that time is simply with SWORD engine
initialization, discovering and opening my library.</p>
<p>Converting all verses in both Old and New Testament:</p>
<p>[scribe@localhost classes]$ time ./verseconvert Gen-Rev Wycliffe
FreGeneve1669 > /dev/null<br>
<br>
real 0m0.645s<br>
user 0m0.601s<br>
sys 0m0.042s<br>
</p>
<p>Hope this is helpful. Looking forward to your work. We've had
discussions over the many years of our project about sharing
bookmarking and similar data between apps, but we all had
different ideas of what we'd like. BibleCS (our Windows classic
app) concentrates on allowing verse groups and trees of groups so
users can create trees of topic. Other apps extend this to allow
comments and notes at each reference, including a specific module
name with the reference. We've all had different data formats for
our bookmarking materials. Since your app centers on tagging
(which I would place in the same category as bookmarking), I would
love to hear what you come up with and if it encompasses
everything which all of our frontends desire to provide their
users. Maybe we can make another go at a shared "bookmarking" or
"tagging" concept and push that concept back into the engine so
all app can share and take advantage of your functionality, if
you'd be willing.</p>
<p>Troy</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/7/20 9:07 AM, Tobias Klein wrote:<br>
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Thanks Troy!
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<div class="">Besides comparing verses in different translations
my primary use case is the following:</div>
<div class="">Establish „unique verse reference“ objects that I
can use to assign tags independent of the specific translation.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Currently I’m doing this by determining the
„absolute verse number“ for the respective verse I’m tagging.</div>
<div class="">Then at the point when the „verse reference object“
(a database entry) is created, the absolute verse number both
for English and Hebrew versification are determined based on my
mapping tables.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Then, when looking up tags for the currently
selected verses I can map the correct „verse reference object“
to each verse in the currently selected translation (based on
the respective absolute verse number).</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">If I migrate to the Sword VerseKey approach I would
change my concept in the following way:</div>
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</div>
<div class="">1) Use KJV verse references (chapter + verse) as
unique identifiers for all „abstract verse reference“ objects.
(Does KJV make sense as a „ reference versification“)</div>
<div class="">2) When opening a translation that does not follow
the KJV theme - map all verse references to the KJV variants and
use the KJV verse references (chapter + verse) as a key to find
the correct „verse reference“ objects in my database.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">What’s the performance of the SWORD VerseKey based
mapping function you described below?</div>
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</div>
<div class="">How would this work if I need to perform a mapping
operation on all verses of a large book like Psalms? (2461
verses).</div>
<div class="">Would this operation come back in less than a
second?</div>
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</div>
<div class="">If not I would have to think about some caching
mechanism in my verse reference objects. Currently I’m caching
the absolute verse numbers for English and Hebrew for all tagged
verse references.</div>
<div class="">With the new concept I could cache the actual
chapter/verse references for all known versification systems.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Thanks for your help on this!</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Best regards,</div>
<div class="">Tobias</div>
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<div class="">Am 06.05.2020 um 18:47 schrieb Troy A.
Griffitts <<a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">scribe@crosswire.org</a>>:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
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!important;" class="">Yes, as Peter has pointed out,
SWORD includes a facility for mapping, graciously
contributed by Костя Маслюк<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:kostyamaslyuk@gmail.com" style="color:
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true"><kostyamaslyuk@gmail.com></a><span
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!important;" class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and should "just
work" when setting a key from one module to another,
e.g, kjv->setKey(wycliffe->getKey()). It's not
quite that simple, because there isn't always a 1:1
mapping, so if you want full support, you'll have to see
if a bound is set on the receiving module's key.</span><br
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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!important;" class="">The mapping data, as with
everything, is not exhaustive, but we'd certainly like
to extend it to meet cases which you run into which
aren't yet supported.</span><br style="caret-color:
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class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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!important;" class="">You can see it taken advantage of
in example sword/examples/tasks/parallelbibles.cpp, but
I've just added a concise example which shows how to use
it:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<a
href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/examples/classes/verseconvert.cpp"
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moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/examples/classes/verseconvert.cpp</a><br
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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!important;" class="">Which outputs, e.g.<span
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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!important;" class="">./verseconvert Ps.43.22 Wycliffe
FreGeneve1669</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
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normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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!important;" class="">Psalms 43:22 (Wycliffe) =>
Psalms 44:21-Psalms 44:22 (FreGeneve1669)</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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!important;" class="">Hope this helps,</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
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!important;" class="">Troy</span><br style="caret-color:
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0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
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text-decoration: none;">On 5/6/20 7:07 AM,<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" moz-do-not-send="true">refdoc@gmx.net</a><span
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class="">
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:-h3p992-gkdbam-bjh0wx-95pxwrjy7n3m-sp0nf8nl5z3nk0oq1ufzun0e-13v7av4gayas7d8y8p-ry1jow7t0xm2-tsuf5daihkpb-qncc4ecbtjirm0ghld-58ng9u7bdi7s-oee1qrds3nydhxreri.1588774058910@email.android.com"
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class="">I think transparent mapping has been for a
while now included in the library. I am not sure how to
make it work, but I do think it is there and
functioning.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
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Peter<br class="">
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Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and
weird autocorrects.
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Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Versification Mapping<br
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From: Jamie<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><araj@critos.co.uk
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To: 'SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum'<span
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CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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New Roman", serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" class="">Hi Tobias,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" class="">Not sure that this exactly
answers your question, but just in case
it’s relevant, Tyndale House have various
public domain information available,
including material on alternative
versification schemes. The
reversification material gives details of
how to map LXX, MT and Vulgate schemes on
to NRSVA (and also addresses some other
schemes which are perhaps less frequently
encountered). It also caters for common
variants which basically follow one of
these schemes, but which have certain
verses split up into subverses. You can
find the data at :-<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class=""><a
href="https://github.com/tyndale/STEPBible-Data/blob/master/TVTMS%20-%20Tyndale%20Versification%20Traditions%20with%20Methodology%20for%20Standardisation%20for%20Eng%2BHeb%2BLat%2BGrk%2BOthers%20-%20TyndaleHouse.com%20STEPBible.org%20CC%20BY-NC.txt"
moz-do-not-send="true" style="color:
purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="">https://github.com/tyndale/STEPBible-Data/blob/master/TVTMS%20-%20Tyndale%20Versification%20Traditions%20with%20Methodology%20for%20Standardisation%20for%20Eng%2BHeb%2BLat%2BGrk%2BOthers%20-%20TyndaleHouse.com%20STEPBible.org%20CC%20BY-NC.txt</a><span
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Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" class="">If you do want to make use
of it, I’d be very happy to try to answer
any questions.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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New Roman", serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" class="">Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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New Roman", serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tobias
Klein [<a
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span
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May 2020 21:19<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span
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Versification Mapping<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></div>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class="">Hi,<o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class="">I would
like to ask a question that I was planning
to ask for a while already ...<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
What's the recommended solution of mapping
different versification systems?<o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class="">And what
working implementations for this are already
out there?<br class="">
<br class="">
I realize that my understanding of
versifications has been a bit limited and
that's visible in Ezra Project's
implementation of the mapping. I am
currently only differentiating between two
versification systems, namely the English
versification (used in most/all (?) English
translations) and the Hebrew versification
(used in most modern German translations).<o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class="">It's been
a few years since I looked into this and I
think this has been my source (SBL Handbook
of Style)<br class="">
<a
href="https://books.google.de/books?id=M_upBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA265&lpg=PA265&dq=appendix+english/hebrew/greek+versification&source=bl&ots=CXVR0J6YrI&sig=ACfU3U3hEIPgNxmmUQW1kZJaRAtHl78L-g&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwilyoPUwp3pAhUrzqYKHVk4BtIQ6AEwAXoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=appendix%20english%2Fhebrew%2Fgreek%20versification&f=false"
moz-do-not-send="true" style="color:
purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="">https://books.google.de/books?id=M_upBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA265&lpg=PA265&dq=appendix+english/hebrew/greek+versification&source=bl&ots=CXVR0J6YrI&sig=ACfU3U3hEIPgNxmmUQW1kZJaRAtHl78L-g&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwilyoPUwp3pAhUrzqYKHVk4BtIQ6AEwAXoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=appendix%20english%2Fhebrew%2Fgreek%20versification&f=false</a><o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class="">My current
approach in Ezra Project to map between
English and Hebrew versification is the
following:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-bottom: 0cm;" class=""
type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;">I use
"absolute verse numbers" in each book.<o:p
class=""></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;">I
have mapping tables that basically define
offsets for the "absolute verse numbers"
(see implementation<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://github.com/tobias-klein/ezra-project/blob/master/models/versereference.js#L177"
moz-do-not-send="true" style="color:
purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="">here</a>).<o:p class=""></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;">The
versification (currently only English or
Hebrew) of the respective translation is
detected based on some simple dynamic
tests when opening it.<o:p class=""></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;">I
have functions to convert between one and
the other "absolute verse numbers" based
on the mapping.<o:p class=""></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;">Verse
Reference objects are stored both with the
English and Hebrew absolute verse numbers
and these objects are used for assigning
tags, notes, etc.<o:p class=""></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class="">This works
fairly well when using English translations
and German translations. The result is for
example that tags that were assigned to
verses of an English translation still show
up correctly for the verses in a German
translation. This is particularly visible in
Psalms.<br class="">
<br class="">
How flawed is my current approach described
above?<br class="">
How do other frontends do it?<br class="">
Have there been plans to somehow integrate
some sort of mapping functionality into the
SWORD engine?<br class="">
<br class="">
Best regards,<br class="">
Tobias<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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