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    <p>I disagree.</p>
    <p>I never use my browser for FTP and I don't want security for the
      files I transfer over FTP.  It's a waste of bandwidth and cycles.<br>
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    <p>HTTPS doesn't provide a common means to discover and traverse
      file systems like FTP.  WebDAV over HTTPS would be the
      alternative.<br>
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    <p>SFTP would be our preference if necessary.</p>
    <p>We use FTP because we don't care about "securely transferring the
      data of Bibles".  Be sure, we care about security in persecuted
      countries, but that security is to protect the identity of the
      client and host and no "protocol" will do that.  If a government
      wants to monitor their people who hit "crosswire.org" then the
      client needs to use a VPN or something similar to avoid
      detection.  A secure "protocol" won't hide the origin and
      destination.<br>
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    <p>We use FTP because it is a means to take a working SWORD library
      and make it available with NO ADDITIONAL META INFORMATION to
      clients.  Point your FTP server to the root of your working SWORD
      library and you are done.</p>
    <p>It is the easiest to setup for 3rd party publishers.</p>
    <p>I'm curious to hear real world benefits of changing to another
      solution.  Please share if you have any,</p>
    <p>Troy<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/20/20 9:28 AM, David Haslam wrote:<br>
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      <div>Thank you Caleb for so succinctly expressing the point that I
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      This is something that needs our <caret></caret>urgent attention. 
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      <div>David<br>
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        On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 16:23, Caleb Maclennan &lt;<a
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          <div dir="ltr">I don't think code sharing code with browsers
            is even the issue here, the issue is the FTP ecosystem is
            going away — and surprising quickly for something that used
            to be so ubiquitous. I've already bumped into several ISP's
            just flat out blocking all FTP traffic, probably because
            they didn't know of or care about any ongoing uses for it.
            With browsers dropping support, it's validity as a protocol
            is going to quickly go by the wayside. All existing FTP
            based systems should be ported to HTTPS (and only 'S') at
            the earliest convenience.</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at
              5:22 PM Greg Hellings &lt;<a
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              wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 20, 2020
                    at 2:20 AM David Haslam &lt;<a
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                    <div>The writing is on the wall for FTP.</div>
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                    Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol |
                    ZDNet<br>
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                    <div>How will this trend affect how we design and
                      communicate?</div>
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                  <div>Since we don't use or rely on Mozilla or Chrome
                    code, I imagine it won't affect much of anything.</div>
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                  <div>--Greg<br>
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                    <div>Best regards,</div>
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                    <div>David</div>
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