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Hi,<br>
Thank for this reflexions.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 13/03/2020 à 19:33, Michael Johnson
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I plan to update PocketSword so that it draws from all official repositories, by default, much like AndBible does.
Duplicating works in repositories is helpful, perhaps, for front ends that only look at one repository at a time, especially if the work is kept up to date in both repositories. When presented with an aggregate list, the user would see duplicate or near-duplicate entries. If the UI displays repository source and date of last update, as well as a full description of the module, this could help the user decide which one(s) to choose.
As far as eBible.org goes, removing a work from the repository is actually more work than keeping it there, because of the way the automation is set up. Therefore I'm disinclined to remove works unless there is a valid reason other than duplication alone.</pre>
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I was not speaking about removing on eBible.org but on Crosswire,
and not all the duplicated modules, but only modules which have
issues on the bug tracker, that means, Arab, Hindi an Chinese
modules. The main problem is people who can update the module are
very busy, or don't have time to do it. <span
class="tlid-translation translation" lang="en"><span title=""
class="">So it takes a long time before an update is offered. </span></span>Some
modules have important issue, as Chinese.<br>
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For the World English Bible and its variants (American/British, standard/Messianic, with/without DC/Apocrypha), the eBible.org repository is the authoritative source with the most current copy. The same is true for hundreds of other translations. That older revisions are "out there" including in Crosswire Main doesn't bother me, really, because the differences generally don't affect meaning, but the English may be less up to date. Staying updated, of course, is better. I'm disinclined to mark any eBible.org</pre>
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This would be only if we decide to remove a module on Crosswire
main, because people will not know that the module is now in the
ebible.org repo.<br>
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translations as obsoleting anything in another repository, absent a specific request from the appropriate pumpkin holder for that repository, lest confusion result. There are, of course, some translations where Crosswire Main is more authoritative. There are also cases where one repository has permission to distribute but the other one doesn't. We have an architecture that supports multiple repositories, although it does look like an afterthought. Still, we can make it work better, either by coming up with
standard ways of aggregating them better in the API, or maybe we keep leaving it up to each front end.
Supporting multiple repositories is actually a good thing in terms of resilience against server outages, censorship, etc. It also gives more localized control to the various sources of modules. Otherwise, there would be a temptation to make one big super-repository. Maybe that isn't a terrible idea if it were just an automated aggregate mirror of all of the others, and if it could be done without violating copyright agreements. For fault tolerance and improved bandwidth, there could be more than one such
super-repository.</pre>
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Good point. And I agree also with the idea of multiple repositories.<br>
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Any thoughts?</pre>
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On 3/13/20 7:56 AM, Cyrille wrote:
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Le 13/03/2020 à 12:55, David Haslam a écrit :
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Cyrille,
I’m not in favour of removing modules from CrossWire simply because one of the affiliated repositories has a similar module.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Why not?
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Nor should it ever be expected that a module published by eBible.org would include an Obsoletes key with one of CrossWire’s modules as the parameter.
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Idem why not?
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Regards,
David
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On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 08:11, Cyrille <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com">lafricain79@gmail.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com"><mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com></a>> wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Dear all,
Actually my worry was about a question between the module team. We have
duplicated modules, in Crosswire and in ebible.org. Often the ebible.org
are updated and not in Crosswire. And we are very slow to update the new
module in Crosswire. Then I proposed to remove in the Crosswire repo,
all the old modules with issue reported on the bug tracker. But the
question was: What to do if the users don't know how to change the repo,
as it happened in the other post on this list, some of us didn't know
how to change for IBT in Xiphos.
I Bibletime, Andbible and Bishop, the repositories are updated all
together, but not in Xiphos. I opened an issue about this on the xiphos git.
For this reason I proposed this for Swordpocket, even if it seems to be
more or less easier than for Xiphos.
Br Cyrille
Le 13/03/2020 à 04:14, Nic Carter a écrit :
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On the downloads screen, tap on the folder icon in the top right corner, then refresh the source list.
That will show all servers in the Master Server List.
Sent from my phone, hence this email may be short...
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On 13/03/2020, at 09:24, Cyrille <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com"><lafricain79@gmail.com></a> wrote:
Hi Michael,
Maybe add the updating of all the repositories at once, as with Andbible
and Bishop. This will help users who don't know they are other
repository as ebible.org...
My 2 cents :)
Br Cyrille
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Le 12/03/2020 à 20:30, Michael Johnson a écrit :
Hello, my brothers and sisters in Christ.
I just thought I should post a status on PocketSword work. I have started on updating it, but haven't yet gotten to a stable point for testing using Test Flight. Right now, it is, unfortunately, on hold, as I have another task in the foreground. I finished the main editing of the World English Bible, with the exception of still correcting the occasional rare typo. (I found one this morning in Ezekiel.) My foreground task at the moment is integrating SILE into Haiola for better PDF generation, especially
with mixed complex scripts. After that is done, I hope to focus on PocketSword. In its new incarnation, it will generate its own indexes, and won't need special server support for that. I'll also fix the key problem for when a module goes from locked to unlocked, which of course, will happen as copyrights expire and/or special permission is granted.
Thank you for your patience.
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