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Hello Troy,<br>
I add some correction in the LT-utf8.conf, changing the abbrev
section in upper case.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/01/2020 à 20:10, Cyrille a
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Hello,<br>
I red the page right now. Is the problem the upper case? If this
is the problem, you have much more problems, because I'm not sure
in pt fr it lt and my it's in upper case... :(<br>
The attached file contains the new file with the upper case name
in the Book Abbrevs section.<br>
I just add the deutero missing and correct Lam, all the rest of
the file was the original sl file.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/01/2020 à 19:38, Troy A.
Griffitts a écrit :<br>
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<p>Dear Fr. Cyrille,</p>
<p>Unfortunately, your attached locale is not acceptable.
Please ask for help to learn how SWORD locales work. Maybe
David or Peter might have time to diff your attached locale to
what is already submitted and explain why this doesn't make
sense and offer some advice. Reading the CrossWire wiki might
also offer some guidance, here:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://wiki.crosswire.org/DevTools:Locale_Files"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://wiki.crosswire.org/DevTools:Locale_Files</a></p>
<p>Thank you for your efforts. With a cleared up understanding
of how things work, I am looking forward to your
contributions.</p>
<p>Troy</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/20/20 5:16 PM, Cyrille wrote:<br>
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In the attached file the corrected file. Please check the
1Macc and 2Macc in the template because in this file too you
had an error, as in French, Italian and Chinese.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/01/2020 à 16:20, Troy A.
Griffitts a écrit :<br>
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Right. We need someone willing to spend time in the problem
locale files. Bishop gets all its display information from
SWORD for Bible book names and preferred abbreviations, and
those all come from SWORD's locale files.<br>
<br>
I used to push back on locale file which, from a first
glance didn't look well developed, but I have given up
pushing back and have been committing as these keep getting
sent to me. My reasoning is that the language much be
important enough to the repeating submitter and thus if/when
it doesn't work well, they hopefully will be motivated to
fix the problem.<br>
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I would think someone else who understands SWORD locale
files could fix the issues, even without language fluency.<br>
<br>
If you or anyone else feels compelled to track down the
deficiencies in the locale files and correct them, I am
happy to apply any patches.<br>
<br>
Troy<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On January 20, 2020 2:12:06 PM MST,
David Haslam <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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<div>Troy,<caret></caret></div>
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<div>For some locales, the book abbreviation displayed
with the chapter selector does not always match the
book abbreviation for the book selector.</div>
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<div>This needs fixing.</div>
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<div>David</div>
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 19:16, Troy A. Griffitts <<a
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<p>I suspect the issue is that Bishop used the new
[Pref Abbrev] section which lets a locale author
pick what is the preferred short abbreviation for a
book in that language. The issue we've had in the
past is that some of the preferred abbreviations
chosen are not actually valid abbreviations for that
book, as defined in the [Book Abbrevs] section which
tells our parser how to to interpret book names.<br>
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<p>Troy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/20/20 12:11 PM,
David Haslam wrote:<br>
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<div>There are also serious navigation issues when
the Latvian locale is selected.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Are these locale related issues unique to the
Bishop front-end?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Have we ever seen similar issues reported for
other SWORD based front-ends?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>What’s unique about Bishop as regards handling
Latvian, Polish or Slovenian book abbreviations?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Testing just now is not exhaustive - done
merely on a sample of languages and books.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David</div>
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 19:02, David Haslam <<a
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<div>Troy,</div>
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<div>I just tried the Polish locale in Bishop for
iOS.</div>
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<div>It doesn’t work very well. </div>
<div>With KJV selected as module, the behaviour
for selecting some books is quite erratic.</div>
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</div>
<div>It requires a more detailed investigation.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>David</div>
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 18:53, David Haslam <<a
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<div>Thanks Troy,</div>
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<div>Yes - it must be the Slovenian locale.</div>
<div>When I select Slovenian as the app language
- the same thing occurs in iOS as Marjan
reported for Android OS.</div>
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<div>We therefore need a correction to that
particular locale file.</div>
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<div>David</div>
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 18:45, Troy A. Griffitts
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<p>Hi David and others,</p>
<p>I replied to Marjan directly-- not why or
how he sent his question to my email address
directly, but apparently he BCC'd you.
Regardless, my reply is attached. I suspect
you don't see the issue because you are
using a different locale and I suspect the
Slovenian locale is the issue. I haven't
received a reply, so maybe someone else with
the time and possibly Slovenian language
knowledge could have a look.</p>
<p>Thank you for following up,</p>
<p>Troy</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/12/20 1:34
AM, David Haslam wrote:<br>
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<div>Bishop 1.3.4 for iOS does not have the
problem with selecting Lamentations for
the KJV module. </div>
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<div>Is there a typo the Bishop source code
for AndroidOS ? </div>
<div>eg In the Lamentations bookname or
abbreviation as sent to SWORD. </div>
<div>That might account for the errant
behaviour. </div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David</div>
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 06:33, Marjan Šavli
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<div>Hello!</div>
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<div>Do you have same problem?</div>
<div>Did I use right address to report a
problem?<br>
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Od: <b class="gmail_sendername"
dir="auto">Marjan Šavli</b> <span
dir="auto"><<a
href="mailto:marjan.savli@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">marjan.savli@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: V pet., 10. jan. 2020 ob
02:32<br>
Subject: Bishop 1.3.4 Android,
Sword 1.8.900<br>
To: Troy Griffitts <<a
href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">scribe@crosswire.org</a>><br>
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<div>Hello!<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I use Bishop 1.3.4 Android,
Sword 1.8.900, KJV - King James
Version (1769) with Strong...
module<br>
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<div>1. When I
want to read
Lamentations
(any chapter)
it opens me
Revelation 1.</div>
<div>If I go
from Jer 52 to
next chapter
it opens me
Rev 1.</div>
<div> If I go
from Ezek 1 to
previous
chapter it
opens me Rev
1. </div>
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<div>2.When
module (e.g.
SLOKJV) does
not contain
chosen book,
it brings
message:
Nothing to
diplay - this
is not
translated
yet. In
Slovenian ther
should be
"Ničesar ni za
prikazati"<br>
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Thank you, Marjan. It sounds like we have some
issues with our Slovenian locale. You could
help us, if you have time. I would love a
native speaker to have a look.<br>
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The SWORD locale is located here:<br>
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<a
href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/sl-utf8.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/sl-utf8.conf</a><br>
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You'll find 2 sections which are important.
First, the [Book Abbrevs] section gives
definitions to our parser. These should be in
uppercase. Next, the [Pref Abbrevs] section
which define what the user would like to see
as the preferred abbreviation and what is
shown in the select box in Bishop should look
the way user expects, in mixed case. Finally
each Pref Abbrev needs to have an entry in the
Book Abbrevs which it would match without
concerning case, and the match needs to only
be initial part, e.g. a Pref Abbrev of "1 Jo"
will match a Book Abbrev of "1 JOHN" so it
would not be necessary to also add a "1 JO".<br>
<br>
My guess is that the books which send you to
Revelation don't have entries in [Book
Abbrevs] which allow our parser to understand
the preferred abbreviation.<br>
<br>
If you'd like to have a look and let us know
any changes you think we should make anywhere
in the locale file, we would appreciate the
help as also I am sure other Slovenian
speakers.<br>
<br>
Also, the Bishop UI locales and template are
located here:<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/tree/master/www/bundledResources/uilocales.d"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/tree/master/www/bundledResources/uilocales.d</a><br>
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href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/blob/master/i18n-template.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/blob/master/i18n-template.conf</a><br>
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<br>
Thank you again for the report and any help
you might give,<br>
<br>
Troy<br>
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6:32:18 PM MST, "Marjan Šavli" <a
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<div>Hello!<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I use Bishop 1.3.4 Android, Sword
1.8.900, KJV - King James Version
(1769) with Strong... module<br>
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<div>1. When I want to
read Lamentations
(any chapter) it
opens me Revelation
1.</div>
<div>If I go from Jer
52 to next chapter
it opens me Rev 1.</div>
<div> If I go from
Ezek 1 to previous
chapter it opens me
Rev 1. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2.When module
(e.g. SLOKJV) does
not contain chosen
book, it brings
message: Nothing to
diplay - this is not
translated yet. In
Slovenian ther
should be "Ničesar
ni za prikazati"<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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