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<p>Dear Fr. Cyrille,</p>
<p>Unfortunately, your attached locale is not acceptable. Please
ask for help to learn how SWORD locales work. Maybe David or
Peter might have time to diff your attached locale to what is
already submitted and explain why this doesn't make sense and
offer some advice. Reading the CrossWire wiki might also offer
some guidance, here:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.crosswire.org/DevTools:Locale_Files">http://wiki.crosswire.org/DevTools:Locale_Files</a></p>
<p>Thank you for your efforts. With a cleared up understanding of
how things work, I am looking forward to your contributions.</p>
<p>Troy</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/20/20 5:16 PM, Cyrille wrote:<br>
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In the attached file the corrected file. Please check the 1Macc
and 2Macc in the template because in this file too you had an
error, as in French, Italian and Chinese.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/01/2020 à 16:20, Troy A.
Griffitts a écrit :<br>
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Right. We need someone willing to spend time in the problem
locale files. Bishop gets all its display information from SWORD
for Bible book names and preferred abbreviations, and those all
come from SWORD's locale files.<br>
<br>
I used to push back on locale file which, from a first glance
didn't look well developed, but I have given up pushing back and
have been committing as these keep getting sent to me. My
reasoning is that the language much be important enough to the
repeating submitter and thus if/when it doesn't work well, they
hopefully will be motivated to fix the problem.<br>
<br>
I would think someone else who understands SWORD locale files
could fix the issues, even without language fluency.<br>
<br>
If you or anyone else feels compelled to track down the
deficiencies in the locale files and correct them, I am happy to
apply any patches.<br>
<br>
Troy<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On January 20, 2020 2:12:06 PM MST,
David Haslam <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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<div>Troy,<caret></caret></div>
<div><br>
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<div>For some locales, the book abbreviation displayed with
the chapter selector does not always match the book
abbreviation for the book selector.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>This needs fixing.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David</div>
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 19:16, Troy A. Griffitts <<a
href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">scribe@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:
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<p>I suspect the issue is that Bishop used the new [Pref
Abbrev] section which lets a locale author pick what is
the preferred short abbreviation for a book in that
language. The issue we've had in the past is that some
of the preferred abbreviations chosen are not actually
valid abbreviations for that book, as defined in the
[Book Abbrevs] section which tells our parser how to to
interpret book names.<br>
</p>
<p>Troy<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/20/20 12:11 PM, David
Haslam wrote:<br>
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<div>There are also serious navigation issues when the
Latvian locale is selected.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Are these locale related issues unique to the
Bishop front-end?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Have we ever seen similar issues reported for other
SWORD based front-ends?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>What’s unique about Bishop as regards handling
Latvian, Polish or Slovenian book abbreviations?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Testing just now is not exhaustive - done merely on
a sample of languages and books.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David</div>
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 19:02, David Haslam <<a
href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>>
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<div>Troy,</div>
<div><br>
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<div>I just tried the Polish locale in Bishop for iOS.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It doesn’t work very well. </div>
<div>With KJV selected as module, the behaviour for
selecting some books is quite erratic.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It requires a more detailed investigation.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David</div>
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 18:53, David Haslam <<a
href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>>
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<div>Thanks Troy,</div>
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<div>Yes - it must be the Slovenian locale.</div>
<div>When I select Slovenian as the app language -
the same thing occurs in iOS as Marjan reported
for Android OS.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We therefore need a correction to that
particular locale file.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David</div>
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 18:45, Troy A. Griffitts
<<a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">scribe@crosswire.org</a>>
wrote:
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<p>Hi David and others,</p>
<p>I replied to Marjan directly-- not why or how
he sent his question to my email address
directly, but apparently he BCC'd you.
Regardless, my reply is attached. I suspect you
don't see the issue because you are using a
different locale and I suspect the Slovenian
locale is the issue. I haven't received a
reply, so maybe someone else with the time and
possibly Slovenian language knowledge could have
a look.</p>
<p>Thank you for following up,</p>
<p>Troy</p>
<p><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/12/20 1:34 AM,
David Haslam wrote:<br>
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<div>Bishop 1.3.4 for iOS does not have the
problem with selecting Lamentations for the
KJV module. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is there a typo the Bishop source code for
AndroidOS ? </div>
<div>eg In the Lamentations bookname or
abbreviation as sent to SWORD. </div>
<div>That might account for the errant
behaviour. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David</div>
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 06:33, Marjan Šavli <<a
href="mailto:marjan.savli@gmail.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">marjan.savli@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:
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<div>Hello!</div>
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<div>Do you have same problem?</div>
<div>Did I use right address to report a
problem?<br>
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Forwarded message ---------<br>
Od: <b class="gmail_sendername"
dir="auto">Marjan Šavli</b> <span
dir="auto"><<a
href="mailto:marjan.savli@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">marjan.savli@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: V pet., 10. jan. 2020 ob 02:32<br>
Subject: Bishop 1.3.4 Android, Sword
1.8.900<br>
To: Troy Griffitts <<a
href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">scribe@crosswire.org</a>><br>
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<div>Hello!<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I use Bishop 1.3.4 Android, Sword
1.8.900, KJV - King James Version
(1769) with Strong... module<br>
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<div>1. When I want
to read
Lamentations (any
chapter) it opens
me Revelation 1.</div>
<div>If I go from
Jer 52 to next
chapter it opens
me Rev 1.</div>
<div> If I go from
Ezek 1 to previous
chapter it opens
me Rev 1. </div>
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<div>2.When module
(e.g. SLOKJV) does
not contain chosen
book, it brings
message: Nothing
to diplay - this
is not translated
yet. In Slovenian
ther should be
"Ničesar ni za
prikazati"<br>
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Marjan
----------<br>
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<div> e-mail:
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href="mailto:marjan.savli@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">marjan.savli@gmail.com</a><br>
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Thank you, Marjan. It sounds like we have some
issues with our Slovenian locale. You could help
us, if you have time. I would love a native
speaker to have a look.<br>
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The SWORD locale is located here:<br>
<br>
<a
href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/sl-utf8.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/sl-utf8.conf</a><br>
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You'll find 2 sections which are important. First,
the [Book Abbrevs] section gives definitions to
our parser. These should be in uppercase. Next,
the [Pref Abbrevs] section which define what the
user would like to see as the preferred
abbreviation and what is shown in the select box
in Bishop should look the way user expects, in
mixed case. Finally each Pref Abbrev needs to have
an entry in the Book Abbrevs which it would match
without concerning case, and the match needs to
only be initial part, e.g. a Pref Abbrev of "1 Jo"
will match a Book Abbrev of "1 JOHN" so it would
not be necessary to also add a "1 JO".<br>
<br>
My guess is that the books which send you to
Revelation don't have entries in [Book Abbrevs]
which allow our parser to understand the preferred
abbreviation.<br>
<br>
If you'd like to have a look and let us know any
changes you think we should make anywhere in the
locale file, we would appreciate the help as also
I am sure other Slovenian speakers.<br>
<br>
Also, the Bishop UI locales and template are
located here:<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/tree/master/www/bundledResources/uilocales.d"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/tree/master/www/bundledResources/uilocales.d</a><br>
<a
href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/blob/master/i18n-template.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/blob/master/i18n-template.conf</a><br>
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<br>
Thank you again for the report and any help you
might give,<br>
<br>
Troy<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On January 9, 2020
6:32:18 PM MST, "Marjan Šavli" <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:marjan.savli@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><marjan.savli@gmail.com></a>
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<div>Hello!<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I use Bishop 1.3.4 Android, Sword
1.8.900, KJV - King James Version (1769)
with Strong... module<br>
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<div>1. When I want to
read Lamentations (any
chapter) it opens me
Revelation 1.</div>
<div>If I go from Jer 52
to next chapter it opens
me Rev 1.</div>
<div> If I go from Ezek 1
to previous chapter it
opens me Rev 1. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2.When module (e.g.
SLOKJV) does not contain
chosen book, it brings
message: Nothing to
diplay - this is not
translated yet. In
Slovenian ther should be
"Ničesar ni za
prikazati"<br>
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<div> e-mail: <a
href="mailto:marjan.savli@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">marjan.savli@gmail.com</a><br>
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