<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">It's almost certainly already been addressed, but due to the software update schedule for Ubuntu won't appear in the long term support stream until April 2020.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:53 AM David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div>IIRC, the <span style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">OSISqToTick key was deprecated some years ago. </span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></span></div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">I think the problem is that CrossWire failed to release KJVA module version 3.1 in February 2017. </font><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">On my PC this was made as a module named KJVAX and was rebuilt completely from KJV & KJVDC source files. The X in the module name is simply so that I could also retain the released module KJVA. <u></u><u></u></font></div><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">Pretty certain that this was put to DM at the time. <br></font><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">NB. </font></div><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">It would seem that BibleTime is ignoring the attribute marker=“” in the OSIS q elements. That’s a software issue that needs fixing. <br></font><div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">David</span></div><div><br></div><div id="gmail-m_-4337968630692511505protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div>Sent from ProtonMail Mobile</div></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 16:23, Michael H <<a href="mailto:cmahte@gmail.com" target="_blank">cmahte@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">correction, the version is Bibletime 2.11.1, not 2.11.3. <br><br>The KJVA module conf file contains the line "OSISqToTick=false". I believe this is the cause of the missing quotations. I think Bibletime is correctly displaying the quotes in modules as defined by OSIS, where most frontends just ignore this configuration, and remove the quotations on all WOJ. But I'm really out of my depth here. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17 AM Michael H <<a href="mailto:cmahte@gmail.com" target="_blank">cmahte@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I see them in bibletime 2.11.3 for Linux (Ubuntu 18.04LTS) built on Sword 1.7.3. This is the default edition that comes in the apps<span style="font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>provided by the current stable Ubuntu edition. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">In a 3 column view with the modules listed, engKJV1769eb, KJV, and KJVA; only the KJVA displays silent transitions. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:01 AM David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" target="_blank">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div>Michael,</div><div><br></div><div>The CrossWire KJV module should not and <u></u><u></u>does not display quotation marks in either Xiphos or PocketSword & probably all SWORD based front-end apps. </div><div><br></div><div>If you see quotation marks at Words of Jesus transitions, might this be a failure of some apps not correctly implementing the attribute marker=“” in rendering the OSIS q element?</div><div><br></div><div>Which apps have such an issue?</div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div><div id="gmail-m_-4337968630692511505gmail-m_9056778511137474981gmail-m_8593452589451641547protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div>Sent from ProtonMail Mobile</div></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 15:49, Michael H <<a href="mailto:cmahte@gmail.com" target="_blank">cmahte@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I suspect starting from the KJVA module is the correct approach for you Cyrille. The engKJV1769eb module is present to make the text available in the other formats (web browser, epub, kindle formats.) It is not intended to be a source text. However, the conversion to all these formats reprocesses the text and introduces some quirks. <br><br>The Crosswire KJV module is not identical to the engKJV1769eb module. <br><br>1. The ebible module does not contain Chapter titles, while the KJV and KJVA modules do. <br>2. The ebible module has more white space between features (pilcrows have trailing spaces, Words of Jesus transitions introduce an extra space, etc.) These are not present in the KJV and KJVA modules. <br>3. Both the ebible and KJV module display quotation marks where the Words of Jesus transitions occur. This is not present in the source text, but is apparently a quirk of OSIS (not sure if it's in the OSIS, or the conf file.) However, the KJVA module does NOT contain these quotations which is more appropriate. Yet it lists the same source as the KJV module. <br><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:19 AM Cyrille <<a href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com" target="_blank">lafricain79@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for the
engKJV1769eb module are not those that either I or DM used for the
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have the feeling again that we are wasting a mad energy by the
dispersion of sources and parallel works.</span> <span title="">Two "identical" modules developed from two sources...</span></span>
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On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57, Cyrille <<a href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com" target="_blank">lafricain79@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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Peter,<br>
I look in the conf file:<br>
TextSource=<a href="http://bf.org" target="_blank">bf.org</a>, eBible.org...<br>
eBible.org is ok<br>
And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work
on it? <span lang="en"><span title=""><span lang="en"><span title="">At the
same time I discover that ebible is an excellent
resource that stores bibles in usfm and osis
formats.</span></span></span></span><br>
David, <span lang="en"><span title="">is your file different from ebible?</span></span><span lang="en"><span title=""><br>
Maybe a link to the <a href="http://ebible.org" target="_blank">ebible.org</a> (I could only download
the usfm file) on wiki would be useful.<br>
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<div>Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith
- though I did some significant work on the source text
in 2016 in collaboration with DM. </div>
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<div>I still keep such KJV files on my PC too. </div>
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<div>The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential
enhancements. </div>
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<div>I am not on my computer, but I think the link
to the source text is both in the conf file and
accessible via the WIki.</div>
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15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Cyrille" <a href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com" target="_blank"><lafricain79@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>An:</b> "SWORD Developers' Collaboration
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<b>Betreff:</b> [sword-devel] KJV with strong
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<div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Hello,<br>
I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is
a <a href="http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/" target="_blank">crosswire project</a>,
I'm just looking for where can I found the
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