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<p>Fr. Cyrille,</p>
<p>Thank you for the updated locale files. The SWORD fr locale
shows a change from Psalm 151 to Additional Psalm. I can change
that if you think it is better. But the SWORD it-utf8 locale file
you have submitted is not standard. I have already committed a
few days ago your [Pref Abbrevs] section for Italian, so if this
is all you've done for this file, it is already committed to the
SWORD source tree. The file you sent has 2 [Book Abrevs] sections
split in the file, which is not standard for any other locale and
I would prefer not to commit this file, as-is. The two UI locale
files in your .xz file have been committed. Thank you!</p>
<p>Troy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/12/19 11:51 AM, Cyrille wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 12/06/2019 19:37, Troy A.
Griffitts ha scritto:<br>
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<p>Dear Fr. Cyrille,</p>
<p>Comments inline below.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/12/19 12:45 AM, Cyrille wrote:<br>
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Troy, why don't you not put bishop on the open gitlab (or git
permission on git.crosswire?)? It would be very easier to help
you with git...<br>
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<p>I am not sure I understand. We do have Bishop on our gitlab
server:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/</a></p>
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Yes I was completely wrong excuse me!! I thought that it was not
possible to fork and clone it. But just now I did it. The next
time I will do a merge request. I opened issues about locales on
it with the same missing line as Marjan Šavli. Please have a look
to it.<br>
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cite="mid:3b8e78f0-a141-951a-c3d2-4fd08d989d4e@gmail.com"> For
Sword I have also a question. How to automatically know if new
files are added? I propose an it-utf8.conf, already merge in <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d</a>,
but I also propose later an update very important for the
fr-utf8.conf and it-utf8.conf, but it is not yet merged with
the source.<br>
If you have all on git I can propose a merge request and for
you it is easier to merge (it or not). And I can automatically
follow the progress of the work.<br>
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<p>SWORD authoritative repo is still SVN. For updates, you can
subscribe to: <a
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moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-cvs</a></p>
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<p>The primary reason I haven't switched this yet is that we
have many people with access to various parts of that repo.
Some can modify tests, some the build system, some filters,
only a few can modify the core lib source, etc. I don't want
to control all the merge requests to that repository. People
have been delegated the authority to manage their parts of the
tree and have full write permissions. I get emails when
people commit and can view their diffs in the emails. I
regularly review what is committed and comment if I feel the
need. I don't have a good solution for this access management
with git. I know how git would suggest I do it. Let everyone
fork, modify their fork, and submit pull requests. But then I
become the bottleneck if I don't merge in a timely fashion,
and also I have to remember who has access to what, "Should
this person have permission to change this or that." With SVN
we have an access file which contains groups of files named
appropriately and we grant contributes full write access to
the level and portions we are comfortable letting them have
full write access to those portions of the authoritative
repository.</p>
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Last question: is it possible to use a unique conf file, with
books, preferred abbreviations, and book abbreviations
together?<br>
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<p>I am not sure I understand your question.</p>
<p>The _abbrev.conf files in the source should probably be
retired now that we have a proper [Pref Abbrevs] section in
the locale file. I can see a use for these possibly if, e.g.,
a user is using a desktop app but on a very small screen and
wants the full book names to also be short.<br>
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You answer to my question! If I understood well, now all is in the
conf file of the sword source, even the Pref Abbrevs? If Yes then
you can update the french and the italian conf file. I attached it
(without the [Prefs abbrev] part). The archive tar.xz is the new
with the missing line.<br>
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<p>Hope this helps,</p>
<p>Troy</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 12/06/2019 09:16, Troy A.
Griffitts ha scritto:<br>
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<p>Johan,</p>
<p>Certainly! I would love to add an Afrikaans
translation. Thank you for considering.<br>
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<p>The short files to be translated follow:<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf</a><br>
(entire file)<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf</a><br>
(PLEASE NOTE: in this last file, only the [Pref Abbrevs]
section for<br>
Bible book abbreviations is needed. Please do not spend
time<br>
translating this entire file. We have this file already
translated for<br>
most languages, only the [Pref Abbrevs] section is new,
which adds the<br>
preferred Bible book abbreviations to each language. This
is the only<br>
section we need)</p>
<p>Troy</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/11/19 1:54 AM, Johan
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Good morning,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Is there a need
for an Afrikaans translation, maybe I can assist?<br>
Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Johan Marais</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> David Haslam <a
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href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><dfhdfh@protonmail.com></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 11 June 2019 10:09<br>
<b>To:</b> SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <a
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href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><sword-devel@crosswire.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sword-devel] Translators Needed,
Any Language<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">Dear Troy,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">It
may well be the case that there are translators
that some of us have contact with but who are not
subscribed to this list.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">This
is likely to be so for those of us whose main focus
is on text development with a view to module
creation as one of the ultimate goals.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">A lot
of the detailed work involved in such activities is
done “off grid” (as it were) through direct personal
email correspondence.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">For
example, I could ask if Brent Riggs would be willing
to translate these text items into Polish.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">He’s
our main contact for the module PolUgdanska.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">I’m
sure similar examples could be multiplied.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">David<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">On Sun,
Jun 9, 2019 at 21:32, Troy A. Griffitts <<a
href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">scribe@crosswire.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">We're
wrapping up a new release of an app now
internationalized. <br>
Officially we now have support for:<br>
<br>
French<br>
German<br>
Spanish<br>
Portuguese<br>
<br>
If anyone can translate into another language and
would like to get<br>
their language into this release, the short files to
be translated follow:<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf</a><br>
(entire file)<br>
<br>
<a
href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf</a><br>
(PLEASE NOTE: in this last file, only the [Pref
Abbrevs] section for<br>
Bible book abbreviations is needed. Please do not
spend time<br>
translating this entire file. We have this file
already translated for<br>
most languages, only the [Pref Abbrevs] section is
new, which adds the<br>
preferred Bible book abbreviations to each
language. This is the only<br>
section we need)<br>
<br>
Translation work simply entails translating each
line, after the '='<br>
sign to your language.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thank you for considering,<br>
<br>
Troy<br>
<br>
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