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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 12/06/2019 19:37, Troy A. Griffitts
      ha scritto:<br>
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      <p>Dear Fr. Cyrille,</p>
      <p>Comments inline below.<br>
      </p>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/12/19 12:45 AM, Cyrille wrote:<br>
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        Troy, why don't you not put bishop on the open gitlab (or git
        permission on git.crosswire?)? It would be very easier to help
        you  with git...<br>
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      <p>I am not sure I understand.  We do have Bishop on our gitlab
        server:</p>
      <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
          href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/</a></p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
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    Yes I was completely wrong excuse me!! I thought that it was not
    possible to fork and clone it. But just now I did it. The next time
    I will do a merge request. I opened issues about locales on it with
    the same missing line as Marjan Šavli. Please have a look to it.<br>
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      cite="mid:ab281619-9fd9-72b5-fdea-045a5f7b2774@crosswire.org">
      <p> </p>
      <blockquote type="cite"
        cite="mid:3b8e78f0-a141-951a-c3d2-4fd08d989d4e@gmail.com"> For
        Sword I have also a question. How to automatically know if new
        files are added? I propose an it-utf8.conf, already merge in <a
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
          href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf"
          moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d</a>,
        but I also propose later an update very important for the
        fr-utf8.conf and it-utf8.conf, but it is not yet merged with the
        source.<br>
        If you have all on git I can propose a merge request and for you
        it is easier to merge (it or not). And I can automatically
        follow the progress of the work.<br>
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      <p>SWORD authoritative repo is still SVN. For updates, you can
        subscribe to: <a
          href="http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-cvs"
          moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-cvs</a></p>
      <p>archives: <a
          href="http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-cvs/"
          moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-cvs/</a></p>
      <p>The primary reason I haven't switched this yet is that we have
        many people with access to various parts of that repo.  Some can
        modify tests, some the build system, some filters, only a few
        can modify the core lib source, etc.  I don't want to control
        all the merge requests to that repository.  People have been
        delegated the authority to manage their parts of the tree and
        have full write permissions.  I get emails when people commit
        and can view their diffs in the emails.  I regularly review what
        is committed and comment if I feel the need.  I don't have a
        good solution for this access management with git.  I know how
        git would suggest I do it.  Let everyone fork, modify their
        fork, and submit pull requests.  But then I become the
        bottleneck if I don't merge in a timely fashion, and also I have
        to remember who has access to what, "Should this person have
        permission to change this or that."  With SVN we have an access
        file which contains groups of files named appropriately and we
        grant contributes full write access to the level and portions we
        are comfortable letting them have full write access to those
        portions of the authoritative repository.</p>
      <p><br>
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        cite="mid:3b8e78f0-a141-951a-c3d2-4fd08d989d4e@gmail.com"> <br>
        Last question: is it possible to use a unique conf file, with
        books, preferred abbreviations, and book abbreviations together?<br>
      </blockquote>
      <p>I am not sure I understand your question.</p>
      <p>The _abbrev.conf files in the source should probably be retired
        now that we have a proper [Pref Abbrevs] section in the locale
        file.  I can see a use for these possibly if, e.g., a user is
        using a desktop app but on a very small screen and wants the
        full book names to also be short.<br>
      </p>
    </blockquote>
    You answer to my question! If I understood well, now all is in the
    conf file of the sword source, even the Pref Abbrevs? If Yes then
    you can update the french and the italian conf file. I attached it
    (without the [Prefs abbrev] part). The archive tar.xz is the new
    with the missing line.<br>
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      <p>Hope this helps,</p>
      <p>Troy</p>
      <p><br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 12/06/2019 09:16, Troy A.
          Griffitts ha scritto:<br>
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          <p>Johan,</p>
          <p>Certainly!  I would love to add an Afrikaans translation. 
            Thank you for considering.<br>
          </p>
          <p>The short files to be translated follow:<br>
            <br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf</a><br>
            (entire file)<br>
            <br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf"
              moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf</a><br>
            (PLEASE NOTE: in this last file, only the [Pref Abbrevs]
            section for<br>
            Bible book abbreviations is needed.  Please do not spend
            time<br>
            translating this entire file.  We have this file already
            translated for<br>
            most languages, only the [Pref Abbrevs] section is new,
            which adds the<br>
            preferred Bible book abbreviations to each language.  This
            is the only<br>
            section we need)</p>
          <p>Troy</p>
          <p><br>
          </p>
          <p><br>
          </p>
          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/11/19 1:54 AM, Johan wrote:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Good morning,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Is there a need
                  for an Afrikaans translation, maybe I can assist?<br>
                  Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Johan Marais</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> David Haslam <a
                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;dfhdfh@protonmail.com&gt;</a>
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 11 June 2019 10:09<br>
                <b>To:</b> SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <a
                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;sword-devel@crosswire.org&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [sword-devel] Translators Needed,
                Any Language<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">Dear Troy,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">It may
                  well be the case that there are translators that some
                  of us have contact with but who are not subscribed to
                  this list.<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">This is
                  likely to be so for those of us whose main focus is on
                  text development with a view to module creation as one
                  of the ultimate goals.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">A lot
                  of the detailed work involved in such activities is
                  done “off grid” (as it were) through direct personal
                  email correspondence.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">For
                  example, I could ask if Brent Riggs would be willing
                  to translate these text items into Polish.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">He’s
                  our main contact for the module PolUgdanska.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">I’m
                  sure similar examples could be multiplied.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">Best
                  regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">David<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">On Sun,
                Jun 9, 2019 at 21:32, Troy A. Griffitts &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">scribe@crosswire.org</a>&gt;
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
              <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">We're
                  wrapping up a new release of an app now
                  internationalized. <br>
                  Officially we now have support for:<br>
                  <br>
                  French<br>
                  German<br>
                  Spanish<br>
                  Portuguese<br>
                  <br>
                  If anyone can translate into another language and
                  would like to get<br>
                  their language into this release, the short files to
                  be translated follow:<br>
                  <br>
                  <a
href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf</a><br>
                  (entire file)<br>
                  <br>
                  <a
                    href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf</a><br>
                  (PLEASE NOTE: in this last file, only the [Pref
                  Abbrevs] section for<br>
                  Bible book abbreviations is needed.  Please do not
                  spend time<br>
                  translating this entire file.  We have this file
                  already translated for<br>
                  most languages, only the [Pref Abbrevs] section is
                  new, which adds the<br>
                  preferred Bible book abbreviations to each language. 
                  This is the only<br>
                  section we need)<br>
                  <br>
                  Translation work simply entails translating each line,
                  after the '='<br>
                  sign to your language.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Thank you for considering,<br>
                  <br>
                  Troy<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
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