<div><div>Cyrille writes, <br></div><div>"Do you know which mark?"<br></div><div><br></div><div>I've yet to do the more detailed analysis, but these 3 are initial candidates:<br></div><div><br></div></div><div>U+1038 း 7,959 MYANMAR SIGN VISARGA<br></div><div>U+104A ၊ 601 MYANMAR SIGN LITTLE SECTION<br></div><div>U+104B ။ 1,489 MYANMAR SIGN SECTION<br></div><div></div><div><br></div><div>But as I observed before, where each verse ends requires more than a simple "blanket" rule. <br>cf. There are many more <b>Visarga signs</b> than occur at verse end, just as there are many more <b>commas</b> in the KJV than occur likewise.</div><div><br></div><div><u><b>Observations</b>: (continued)</u><br></div><div>Still within the scope of <b>contents.pp.txt</b> derived from <b>Mat_utf8.odt</b></div><div><br></div><div>7. I just found an anomalous 'S' that looks like a further font conversion bug.<br></div><div>ဒါဝိဒ်မင်းကြီးတွင် ဥရိယ၏ဇနီးဖြစ်ခဲ့ဖူးသည့်မိန်းမမှ ဖွားမြင်သောသား ဆောလမွန်၊- ဆောလမွန်၏သား ရေဟိုးဘိုအမ်၊ ရေဟိုးဘိုအမ်၏သား အာဘီဂျ၊ အာဘီဂျ ၏သား အာဆ၊- အာဆ၏သား ဂျေဟိုးရှဖတ်၊ ဂျေဟိုး <b>S</b>ရှဖတ်၏သား ဂျော်ရမ်၊<br></div><div>and also <br></div><div>- သင်တို့သည် အဘယ်ကြောင့် အဝတ်အထည်အဖို့ စိုးရိမ်ကြောင့်ကြနေကြသနည်း။ လယ်ကွင်းပြင်ရ <b>dS</b><br></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Best regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div>David<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton">Sent with <a href="https://protonmail.com" target="_blank">ProtonMail</a> Secure Email.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:43 PM, Cyrille <lafricain79@gmail.com> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 15/05/2019 19:18, David Haslam ha
scritto:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Each of the last 1 or 2 characters of each verse is a regular
Myanmar punctuation mark.<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div>Do you know wich mark?<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>We need to be careful how we apply this. There may well be
some exceptions.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Windows users should install BabelPad. This free Unicode text
editor is highly recommended.<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Software/BabelPad.html">http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Software/BabelPad.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>It will help in all sorts of ways, not least in analysis.<br></div><div><br></div><div>David<br></div><div><br></div><div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div>Sent from ProtonMail Mobile<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 18:08, Cyrille <<a class href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com">lafricain79@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div><span lang="en"><span title>I
have not understood everything yet ... But I trust you.</span> <span title>But if you have the courage to explain to me I
want to learn :)</span><br> <span title>What I don't understand is how you can find the
marker of each verse and chapter in the utf8 text?</span> <span class title>What is this marker in question?</span></span></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 15/05/2019 19:03, David Haslam
ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Michael’s description matches how I imagined the method
during my waking moments this morning. :)<br></div><div><br></div><div>David<br></div><div><br></div><div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div>Sent from ProtonMail Mobile<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 17:33, Michael H <<a class href="mailto:cmahte@gmail.com">cmahte@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><div>I've
been working long hours and emailing in my break time.
David has the basics of converting to VPL. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> I would then make the entire work a column in a
spreadsheet. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Then in other collumns insert a list of
Book/chapter/verse in order. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> The BCV and versetext columns should align and can be
verified, and adjusted where things don't match
perfectly, like maybe 3 John has 15 instead of 14
verses. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Once the columns align, you can merge them into another
column via concatenation operations (&). This last
column becomes your output. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> The output needs to consider that section titles and
section ranges belong in front of the verse marker. That
is a bit more complex search and replace, but can be
done successfully. <br></div></div><div style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, May 15, 2019 at
11:12 AM David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px
0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div><div>The attachment contains a counted list of Myanmar
words containing a font conversion error.<br></div><div> <i>NB. We need to match these words with what they are
in the legacy font.</i><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div>This issue should be discussed with the current
maintainer of the SIL <b>TECkit</b> converter,
whoever that may be.<br></div><div><br></div><div>It may be worthwhile asking our friends at the
SIL <b>Writing Systems Technology</b> team. See<br></div><div><a href="https://scripts.sil.org/default">https://scripts.sil.org/default</a><br></div><div> <br></div><div> <i>Aside: My friend Martin Hosken of SIL knew the late
Keith Stribley - the former webmaster of
ThanLwinSoft.</i><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_signature_block"><div class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Best regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div>David<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_signature_block-proton">Sent
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Email.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div>On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:41 PM, David Haslam
<<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_quote"><div><u><b>Observations</b>: (continued)</u><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>5. The string "<b>Kd;</b>" also looks
anomalous. It's found only once in <br></div><div>ကိုယ်တော်၏ဦးခေါင်းတော်အပေါ်၌ လည်း ဤသူသည်ကား
ဂျူးလူမျ Kd;တို့၏ဘုရင်၊<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div>6. It's evident from the PDF file that the text
is paragraphed with indented first lines. See <br></div><div><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/do5e675i19xfomf/Screenshot%202019-05-15%2016.29.10.png?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/do5e675i19xfomf/Screenshot%202019-05-15%2016.29.10.png?dl=0</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>My hunch is that these leading paragraph
indents may have been coded within contents.xml as
the self-closing element <b><text:tab/></b>. <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif">There are
372 matches to this.<br> <br> So not only do we need to provide chapter and
verse tags (plus section headings & parallel
passage titles, etc), we also need to
reconstruct all the paragraph tags.<br> <br> <i>NB. All structural XML indents were removed
by the filter "Remove blanks at SOL" in the
file </i><b><i>contents.pp.tx</i></b><i> that
was output by my simple TextPipe filter. So
that's quite a different matter.</i></span></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_signature_block"><div class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Best regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div>David<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_signature_block-proton">Sent
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Email.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div>On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:22 PM, David Haslam
<<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div><u><b>Observations:</b> (continued<b>)</b></u><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>4. In addition to the reported instances of
the anomalous 3 characters (<b>È,Ø,ò</b>) found
after the font conversion,<br></div><div>there are 6 instances of the string "<b>m;</b>"
that are also probably due to bugs in the
converter.<br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_signature_block"><div class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Best regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div>David<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_signature_block-proton">Sent
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Email.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div>On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 12:41 PM, David
Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_quote"><div>Yep - sure - later I can do that. <br></div><div><br></div><div>David<br></div><div><br></div><div id="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div>Sent from ProtonMail Mobile<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:26, Cyrille <<a href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com">lafricain79@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail-m_-4120532262546096157protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div>David I have no count in box, and I want
not to create one. Can you push on <a href="https://framadrop.org/">https://framadrop.org/</a> it's totally free and secure (and private).<br></div><div>Thank you.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Il
15/05/2019 11:46, David Haslam ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><pre>Interim progress report.
I downloaded the file Mat_utf8.zip from Cyrille's link and unzipped the contents to Mat_utf8-odt
I opened the .odt file using 7-Zip from the Windows Explorer context menu, and extracted the file contents.xml
I used Notepad++ plug-in XMLTools to pretty print the XML file and saved it as contents.pp.xml
This is simply a layout change that's easier to read.
I viewed the .pp.xml file in BabelPad, which confirmed that the non-XML text was (mostly) Myanmar Unicode.
I used a TextPipe filter to remove all XML tags, blanks from SOL & EOL and all blank lines.
The output file is now contents.pp.txt
This is now something that's readable content in Myanmar Unicode, with some English text such as "The Gospel according Matthew" near the start.
The file is best viewed using BabelPad with the option Display Colours | Colour Code by Script.
This shows Myanmar characters in light green, and non-Myanmar characters in other colours.
Observations:
1. The font conversion to Unicode left a few scattered characters unconverted. :(
0000C8 È 18 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E WITH GRAVE
0000D8 Ø 20 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE
0000F2 ò 3 LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH GRAVE
The complete character frequency analysis is attached.
2. A few verse numbers? are still present here and there.
3. The content contains section headings and parallel passage headings as well as verse text.
I have just uploaded the file contents.pp.zip to a new folder in my Box account and added Cyrille & Michael as viewers.
Best regards,
David
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<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre>Hello,
I recently receive a modern translation of Myanmar of the NT, Psalms and
Proverbs with permission to create a new module.
But the problems are many... Firs to get the text.
I tested different way, but it's done with PageMaker!
I can get the text but the problem is I don't have the verses number
because they are next in a parallel column and when I copy it I have
only the biblical text.
I have a pdf also but when I convert it to text (with pdftotext) the
columns are mixed.
Someone can help me whit any idea?
Next problem is the Unicode... The text is not typed in unicode but use
a special font.
I can send everything you need or push it the git.crosswire.
Thanks for help.
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