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Yesterday I thought, if a pdf tool give the possibility to cut the
pdf in the middle, then the raw conversion to txt can be possible,
the we only need to convert it to UTF8.<br>
Any idea?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 13/05/2019 17:40, Michael H ha
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style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I unzipped
the pagemaker file, and when I open NT_Proverb/Pagemaker
(10.1mb), with a Hex editor, I can 'find' all of the book
names, and see the text there. <br>
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To see the raw text: rename NT_Proverb.pmd > NT_Proverb.zip
and open it with a zip archive progeram. The text is in the
Pagemaker file at the top level of the archive, but encoded
with a lot of extraneous information. (The English text
"Matthew" appears at hex location 7A76972). <br>
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When I open the fonts with fontforge, Fontforge suggests the
fonts are encoded as unicode (but the glyphs are obviously not
in the right spot.) <br>
However when I copy the text (I copied from LO Draw) and paste
it into jedit and save that as unicode: Reopening the file has
a warning 'not unicode, text may be missing'. <br>
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So, what this means is that there are some glyphs encoded into
locations that unicode treats as control or non-printing
codes. The text needs to be dealt with as a specific encoding
that matches whatever the original font actually uses. I
haven't figured out what the original text files were encoded
with. Without that knowledge, I'm not sure my system clipboard
or editor (jedit) will properly respect the glyphs in unusual
locations until the conversion to unicode, and I don't trust
myself to be able to detect if it is or is not properly
converted. <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 10:11
AM Cyrille <<a href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com"
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> David,<br>
Probably you are right about <a
href="http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&cat_id=TECkit"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">TECkit</a>, if we
get the text it will help us to convert in UNICODE.<br>
About how to get the text, your method is out of my skills
:)<br>
I you succeed please let me know.<br>
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13/05/2019 16:21, David Haslam ha scritto:<br>
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<div>Given the insights from Michael Hart, it may be
feasible to temporarily rearrange the main text stream
as follows :</div>
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<div>1. Replace every EOL by a horizontal tab. </div>
<div>2. Insert an EOL after each verse end character. </div>
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<div>Observe that the above two steps are
wholly reversible such that the original text stream can
be restored later. </div>
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<div>In effect the text stream is now in verse per line
(VPL) layout, albeit without verse tags. Some
adjustments may be necessary if there any section
headings, etc. </div>
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<div>3. Add line numbers with the first number being reset
to 1 at the start of each chapter, numbers incrementing
by 1 for each line. </div>
<div>4. Add a left margin USFM verse tag \v_<br>
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<div>Steps 3&4 can be implemented in various ways.
For my part, I’d use a bespoke TextPipe filter. </div>
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<div>Another method to consider might be to use Excel
formulae. I recall resorting to such a method in the
early days of Go Bible. </div>
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<div>Now restore the original layout by reverting steps
2 & 1, if this is really necessary. That is, if
the original text layout appeared to be paragraphed. </div>
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<div>5. Decide how & where to insert paragraph
tags. </div>
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<div>6. Add chapter tags, book ID and main title tags,
etc. </div>
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<div>Hope this gives some useful suggestions that point
towards a practical solution. </div>
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<div>Best regards </div>
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<div>David</div>
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On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 14:57, Michael H <<a
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LibreOffice Draw attempts to open the
pagemaker file, with limited success. But it
confirms that even in the pagemaker source,
the verse numbers are a separate text stream.
With this source, there is no way to copy the
text with verse numbers intact. It appears to
be stored with each book in it's own text
stream. Each book is a separate text stream in
the page maker file. LO Draw isn't rendering
all of the pages, only the first 10, So I've
only explored Matthew further. <br>
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Based on Matthew only, the verses seem to all
end with the character "-" or ";/", which
should aid in the reconstruction. I've looked
through the PDF and this seems to be the case
for all books visually as well. However, this
isn't perfect: I find 1107 of these characters
in Matthew, instead of the expected 1071
verses. But since the text stream has a book
introduction, this is likely easily explained.
Hopefully this gets you well down the path to
creating a stream with verses. <br>
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I would NOT start from the PDF file, but from
the pagemaker file. The PDF almost certainly
has a lot of text rearranging and extra
characters like page numbers and running
heads. Pagemaker has the book text in a
single stream, in a form that will convert to
unicode relatively easily. </div>
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