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<div>Menge should be be free - the problem is how to get a good source text. The German Bible Society does not encouarge access to it so you need to "harvest" the text last time I looked.<br/>
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Schlachter 2000 - The Geneve bible Society has years ago promised to see the text as a module for us - I did their work for them, they have it. I was in the end disinterested in it as I barely use German and did not follow it through.<br/>
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Luther 1984 - They are perfectly willing to sell themselves, but want to know how much they would sell.</div>
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<div>Elberfelder said yes, no, yes, then no again when I asked the last time.</div>
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<div>Neue Genfer I never asked.<br/>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 14. März 2019 um 07:32 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "Tobias Klein" <contact@tklein.info><br/>
<b>An:</b> sword-devel@crosswire.org<br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free Sword Modules</div>
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>this would be my personal wish list:<br/>
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English:<br/>
New International Version<br/>
New American Standard Bible<br/>
New King James Version<br/>
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German:<br/>
Revidierte Elberfelder<br/>
Schlachter 2000<br/>
Menge<br/>
Luther 1984<br/>
Neue Genfer Übersetzung<br/>
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I realize that all of these are available in a free mobile app or also online on websites. So I do have access to the text.<br/>
When doing bible study, though, I want to work with these translations right in my own bible software on my desktop computer. I want to work with the text, link my own material to it, take notes, create outlines, maintain topical verse lists, create markup. And it's odd to do this with older translations than I'm used to from my printed bibles. Some websites have some of these study features. But I don't want to store my personal bible study material on some online server.</p>
<p>I know a lot of other people with similar needs, both in Germany and the US.<br/>
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Best regards,<br/>
Tobias<br/>
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<font face="garamond, serif" size="4">On a desktop (in English,) the gap that "free" can't currently fill is not Bible Text, but in 20 and 21st century scholarship about Bible issues. It is very easy to see the text of practically any version of the Bible on a desktop computer with an internet connection. I nor any serious Bible Scholar doesn't need those. </font><br/>
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<font face="garamond, serif" size="4">The Gap (in English) that "free" can't fill are the copyrighted libraries of Logos and Accordance beyond the Bible text. </font>
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If you study that list, and make a list of "Can I access this online for free?" The Bibles all get check marks, but then the rest of those $5000-30000 Library items are all unchecked. Some of these items I've run into in discussions where my lack of access does leave me relying on mentions in email and chat groups, not the primary source. <br/>
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The priority that exists for open source libraries is the large library of current and modern scholarship on the Bible that is locked behind near perpetual copyrights. Lack of modern scholarship is one of many sources but nearly a majority source of sectarian ideas like "KJVO" and the "mama trinity." These wacky topics have been debunked over and over in modern scholarship. And with true open libraries, KJVO and "mama trinity" wouldn't even exist. (and I'm not suggesting here anything directly about KJVO or a feminine member of the Trinity, those are just lead ins to hitting that paywall I keep running into. You can freely insert your gaps of knowledge that you study on but never find good materials for.) </font></div>
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<div class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 1:54 PM Tobias Klein <<a href="mailto:contact@tklein.info" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:contact@tklein.info'; return false;" target="_blank">contact@tklein.info</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.8ex;border-left: 1.0px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left: 1.0ex;">On 13.03.19 13:14, Dominique Corbex wrote:<br/>
> In France, people use modern (non-free) translation too, but *printed*<br/>
> Bibles.<br/>
> Some people I know have installed Bible apps on their phones but are not willing to pay for a non-free version.<br/>
> And for good reason, popular modern translation have their own free apps on Play Store:<br/>
> <a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.SBG.s21" target="_blank">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.SBG.s21</a>)<br/>
> <a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.book.bible.bds" target="_blank">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.book.bible.bds</a><br/>
> <a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bible.jang.frpdv" target="_blank">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bible.jang.frpdv</a><br/>
> <a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.parole.de.vie" target="_blank">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.parole.de.vie</a><br/>
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Apps are often times available with non-free translations for free, but<br/>
that's not the case for decent desktop bible study software.<br/>
Even if the market is reduced to desktop bible study programs, that's<br/>
still a rather large market where Sword-based software could increase<br/>
its share.<br/>
Desktop bible study software is often times used by people in ministries<br/>
(teaching/preaching/bible study preparation). And these kind of users<br/>
are usually also ready to pay.<br/>
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Best regards,<br/>
Tobias<br/>
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