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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">I got a response from Martin Denham. He said that AndBible does not automatically display introductory material, other than
verse 0. In AndBible am getting the introductions within chapters, but nothing before chapter 1 or before a book.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> The latest JSword should handle it just fine. When you grab an entire chapter it will grab verse 0 </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> for the chapter. You have to get the entire book to get chapter 0. Or explicitly request 0. E.g. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Matt.0.0-1.ff.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">I gather that this refers to api calls in AndBible, not something that can be handled at the module level.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">It sounds like my only option is to move the chapter 1 tag to the top of any book or section introductory matter. This is somewhat
of a pain in the neck, because I am converting manuscripts from Logos XML to OSIS XML by means of Perl scripts, and to move
milestones around correctly requires a lot of hacks in my code. It implies that I have to put, for example, the Genesis 1 book and
chapter tags at the top of all the introductory articles -- Title page, abbreviations page, Intro to the Bible, Intro to the books of the
law, etc. </span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">If anybody can give any further tips on this, I would appreciate it.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> AndBible is the place to go. It uses an earlier version of JSword. Martin Denham is the author but </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> he is unable to work on it. Volunteers are welcome. </span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">At this time I just need to get my modules to work, and don't have time to dive into app development. I'm not up to speed in
Java, or Android developement either, although I can learn easily enough. I am retired, and not really looking for another career
opportunity :^)</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">We are happy with AndBible and unless we can find a better Sword front end for Android, we will stick with it despite any
deficiencies.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">John</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> — DM Smith </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> From my phone. Brief. Weird autocorrections. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> On Jun 15, 2018, at 4:19 PM, John Dudeck <john.dudeck@sim.org> wrote:</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Ok. I think I just realized where my problem lies.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> In Xiphos, the Introductory material is displaying the way you describe, which is what I </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> want.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> But in AndBible, only the text that is withing the <chapter> tags is displaying.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> So I'm guessing this is a JSword or AndBible issue.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Whom do we contact about this?</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> John</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > I’ll see if I can explain from memory. I’m the most recent contributor to osis2mod.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Below “first” means the first encountered. For a complete Bible it is as you’d think, but if </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> there is</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > only one testament or an incomplete testament, first may not refer to Genesis or </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Matthew. Also,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > if a book or chapter doesn’t start with chapter or verse 1, then first doesn’t refer to 1.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > BTW, Intro, Heading, and Title are treated as the same. The toggle for headings handles </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> all</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > three the same. Initially the thought was that there were only titles and sub-titles.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Bible Intro. Osis2mod doesn’t know how to properly handle this. Everything before the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> first</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > testament is gathered as the Bible intro. OSIS doesn’t require testament divisions, but </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> these are</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > needed to identify a Bible intro. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Testament Intro. Osis2mod doesn’t know how to properly handle this. Everything before </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> the first</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > book is gathered as a testament intro. Everything after the last book of the Old </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Testament and</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > before the first book of the New Testament is gathered as the NT intro.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Because osis2mod doesn’t know how to address Bible and Testament intro it is put in the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> first</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > location it knows is after that point. Practically, it becomes intro material in the first </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> chapter.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Book Intro. Everything inside the book tag before the first chapter tag is a Book intro. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> While it is</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > placed in chapter 0, verse 0 for the book, you never explicitly address 0. Osis2mod will </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> figure it</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > out.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Chapter Intro. This is the most difficult. A chapter intro comes after the chapter tag and </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> comes</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > before the tag for verse 1. But some can be an intro that goes with the chapter and some </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> is</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > taken as the intro to a verse. Since it is hard to control where one ends and the next </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> begins, the</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > wiki has carefully laid out how osis2mod distinguishes the two. Special treatment is </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> needed for</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > canonical Psalm headings. That which goes with the chapter intro is put into verse 0 for </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> that</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > chapter, but you never explicitly address 0. Osis2mod will figure it out as well. The rest is</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > prefixed to verse 1 with special markup that osis2mod adds.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Verse intro (aka titles). This is everything between 2 verses after the last closing tag of </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> the prior</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > verse and before the start verse tag. Often this contains no text but only structural tags.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Many frontends do not show intro material but only material from verse 1 and following.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > (Hopefully, I’m wrong.)</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > If you make an uncompressed module and use the debug flag to show markers for </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> verses you</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > can view the built data files in a readable format.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > If someone can explain to me how to address the intros using the SWORD engine, I’ll </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> update</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > osis2mod to properly store them.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > The wiki can be improved. Feel free to make it read better.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Hope this helps,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > DM</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > On Jun 11, 2018, at 8:11 PM, John Dudeck <john.dudeck@sim.org> wrote:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Would somebody please clarify the documentation on the wiki page for osis2mod.exe for</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > "Handling of Introductions, Titles and Inter-Verse Material". I can't make heads nor tails </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> out</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > of it.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > Specifically, how are we supposed to tag (in OSIS) the introductory material in a Bible?</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > The wiki page says that SWORD looks for module, testament, book and chapter</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > introductory material." In the Bibles I am working on, everything inside of chapter tags is</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > being displayed, but none of the stuff outside the chapter tags is being displayed.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > It says that "A module introduction should be place into testament 0, book 0, chapter 0,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > verse 0. A testament introduction should be placed into testament 1 or 2, book 0, chapter</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > 0, verse 0." What does this mean? Where do you tag the testament number, the book</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > number, etc? This is not explained in the OSIS documentation, which only mentions </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> book</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > abbreviations, and nothing about testaments.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > It says "See OSIS Bibles for best practices in marking up titles and introductions." But </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> that</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> > page says nothing at all about introductions.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">John Dudeck              Tel: +1-704-588-9891  Cell: +1-803-504-8065</span></font></div>
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