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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 07/01/2018 à 14:59, David Haslam a
      écrit :<br>
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      <div>Unlike having a minor problem where an alternative
        translation of one verse can be relegated to a footnote,</div>
      <div>Rahlf's LXX  presents a major difficulty to SWORD by having
        alternatives for whole books.<br>
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    Not for all books, but for Judge, Tobit and Daniel (Suzanne and
    Bel). I saw in the Vulglaire module something like 2 translation?
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      <div>This cannot simply be solved in OSIS and still have a single
        module.</div>
      <div> <br>
      </div>
      <div>I think it requires two modules A &amp; B.</div>
      <div> <br>
      </div>
      <div>The B module need not include the non-duplicated books.</div>
      <div> <br>
      </div>
      <div>Has anyone got a better solution?</div>
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    Ok I consider now I can pressed to a new module creation, for LXX,
    with the current v11n. The source will be the Rahlfs text. If
    another solution is not found, I will creat 2 modules for each
    different texts.<br>
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      <div>David</div>
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          On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 13:50, Cyrille &lt;<a
            href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com" class=""
            moz-do-not-send="true">lafricain79@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 07/01/2018 à 14:38, David
            Haslam a écrit : <br>
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            <div>I was referring to the fact that Rahlf's has 2
              different versions for some books.</div>
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          Ah ok, yes I see this two different versions of some books.
          Then you propose to create 2 modules? Or Osis propose an
          option to add the two translation? <br>
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            <div>I wasn't referring to the IMP file you generated from
              the existing module using mod2imp.</div>
            <div> <br>
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            <div>David</div>
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                On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 09:28, Cyrille &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com" class=""
                  moz-do-not-send="true">lafricain79@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                wrote:</div>
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 07/01/2018 à 10:06,
                  David Haslam a écrit : <br>
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                  <div>Cyrille,</div>
                  <div> <br>
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                  <div>Even if you build the module from IMP using
                    imp2vs, any duplicated verses will be overwritten by
                    the occurrence in the second instance.</div>
                </blockquote>
                Which module are you talking about? What I did: I
                downloaded the Lxxm file I processed with the lxxm.jar
                script, the result was a brand new imp file. With which
                I tried to create a new module with imp2vs, but nothing
                is displayed in xiphos. Maybe you can test on your
                computer. <br>
                That's where I am with lxxm sources. <br>
                As for my module. I can now, if you validate my
                proposal, create a new module for the LXX from the
                Rahlfs edition, with the accents, but without the
                morphology and the numbers of strong. <br>
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                  <div>The module would thus lose content that exists in
                    the source text.</div>
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                  <div>David</div>
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                      On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 07:33, Cyrille &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com" class=""
                        moz-do-not-send="true">lafricain79@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                      wrote: </div>
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                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 06/01/2018 à
                        21:19, David Haslam a écrit : <br>
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                        <div>Now that you understand that, does this
                          change anything regarding the proposed three
                          new catholic lit av11ns ?</div>
                        <div> <br>
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                      No because for the Catholic we have not to do a
                      "compromise" of different version, all version are
                      the same. <br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      For LXX, I don't understand exactly what to do
                      with the LXXM.imp file. For this reason  I propose
                      to create a new module with all the LXX books from
                      Rahlfs version (Or you can give me the way to use
                      the LXXM.imp :) ). If someone desire to have the
                      Strong and Morpho he can still install the "old"
                      module. <br>
                      After, if someone can add to the new LXX osis
                      file, strong and he can use this new source file.
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                        <div class="protonmail_signature_block">Best
                          regards, David</div>
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                            On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 20:09, Cyrille &lt;<a
                              href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com"
                              class="" moz-do-not-send="true">lafricain79@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                            wrote:</div>
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                            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 06/01/2018 à
                              20:51, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit : <br>
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                              cite="mid:be91c2cf-26a1-f413-9b69-7c62dc8f181e@crosswire.org">
                              <p>Dear Cyrille,</p>
                              <p>Are you taking into account my comment
                                about our v11ns being supersets from
                                multiple Bibles and the comments at the
                                beginning of the LXX v11n? </p>
                            </blockquote>
                            <br>
                            No sorry I missed it! Ok it's clear. I
                            understand well. <br>
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                              cite="mid:be91c2cf-26a1-f413-9b69-7c62dc8f181e@crosswire.org">
                              <pre style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap;">// This is a compromise versification system, intended to allow encoding of Bibles using a number of slightly varying LXX-based versification systems. In particular, it was produced in consultation with OTs:
// Rahlfs', Swete's, Tischendorf's, &amp; Thomson's editiNOtions
// R. H. Charles' &amp; James H. Charlesworth's anthologies of Apocrypha &amp; Pseudepigrapha
// Henry E. J. Howard's Pentateuch and R. R. Ottley's Isaiah translations from the LXX

// In addition to the LXX OT, the GNT has been included in this system to facilitate production of modern Bibles such as the OSB, which are translated from the LXX but include the NT as well. The following NTs were consulted in producing this versification system:
// Antoniades' Patriarchal GNT and its translation, the EOB
// the NKJV (OSB NT) &amp; NRSV translations

// All of these Bibles &amp; texts should be accomodated by this versification definition without requiring that any extra verses be appended; as a consequence, no Bible will include every verse of this system.

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                              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/06/2018
                                12:47 PM, Cyrille wrote: <br>
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                                cite="mid:77e51b46-505b-52ee-7690-f7b762d54450@gmail.com">
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le
                                  06/01/2018 à 20:13, Troy A. Griffitts
                                  a écrit : <br>
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                                <blockquote type="cite"
                                  cite="mid:1796eec6-f4bc-a71c-ae26-80f4d5e89a31@crosswire.org">
                                  <p>These v11ns are not in the sources
                                    because we are still researching. 
                                    But since these have been double
                                    checked to printed editions,</p>
                                </blockquote>
                                <br>
                                I have the printing edition!! And this
                                report is about the printing edition,
                                not about the doc file. But the doc file
                                correspond exactly to the printing
                                edition. <br>
                                <blockquote type="cite"
                                  cite="mid:1796eec6-f4bc-a71c-ae26-80f4d5e89a31@crosswire.org">
                                  <p>I highly doubt whatever 'errors'
                                    you see are actually errors in the
                                    v11n, but rather a bad source text. 
                                    I am sorry for speculating, but I
                                    know these v11ns were checked and
                                    verified by a second individual
                                    against a printed edition and also
                                    know there is a ton of low quality
                                    texts online which claim to be
                                    things which they are not. <br>
                                  </p>
                                </blockquote>
                                The check was not good done. <br>
                                <blockquote type="cite"
                                  cite="mid:1796eec6-f4bc-a71c-ae26-80f4d5e89a31@crosswire.org">
                                  <p>These are simply my suspicions
                                    without having the time now to put
                                    in the research.  I hope you find a
                                    way to check and confirm.</p>
                                </blockquote>
                                Then I can confirm this : <br>
                                The current canon_LXX.h and the
                                LXX,rahlfs.h don't match with the
                                printing edition, I have with me. <br>
                                <blockquote type="cite"
                                  cite="mid:1796eec6-f4bc-a71c-ae26-80f4d5e89a31@crosswire.org">
                                  <p>Troy</p>
                                  <p> <br>
                                  </p>
                                  <br>
                                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On
                                    01/06/2018 12:06 PM, Cyrille wrote:
                                    <br>
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                                    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le
                                      06/01/2018 à 18:36, Troy A.
                                      Griffitts a écrit : <br>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote type="cite"
                                      cite="mid:204237e4-ac68-df7b-0029-653f603ba43f@crosswire.org">
                                      <p>Dear Cyrille,</p>
                                      <p>I just did a brief diff between
                                        the canon_lxx.h and the
                                        canon_lxx-super.h I sent you in
                                        my previous email, and the
                                        differences don't look like
                                        anything useful.  I must be
                                        mistaken about what this file
                                        is.  Have a read of the comments
                                        in the file I send and those in
                                        the canon_lxx.h included in
                                        1.8.0.  They are very similar,
                                        but the *-super.h v11n includes
                                        this comment near the end of the
                                        header:</p>
                                      <p>"This is not intended for
                                        critical editions that
                                        separately encode variant
                                        traditions of Joshua, Judges,
                                        Tobit, etc. that are already
                                        served by the Rahlfs
                                        versification system (q.v.)."</p>
                                      <p>I am not sure to what the
                                        "Rahlfs versification system
                                        (q.v.)" refers, nor the /quod
                                        vide/ at the end of the
                                        reference. </p>
                                      <p>I could possibly refer to the
                                        analysis of Rahlfs in the LXX
                                        v11n folder I send to you
                                        earlier, specifically here, but
                                        I am not sure: </p>
                                      <p><a
                                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/versification/lxx_v11ns/canon_rahlfs.h"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/versification/lxx_v11ns/canon_rahlfs.h</a>
                                      </p>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    My question is why this v11n are not
                                    in the sources? And I compare the
                                    Rahlfs.h, it's not good... still a
                                    lot of issues. I ready to perform
                                    it. Please let me know the good way
                                    to help. <br>
                                    But it clear for me that for the
                                    current source I have, it's not
                                    possible to use the current LXX
                                    v11n. <br>
                                    <blockquote type="cite"
                                      cite="mid:204237e4-ac68-df7b-0029-653f603ba43f@crosswire.org">
                                      <p>But I do not see any
                                        accommodation for alternate
                                        traditions in there.  I may need
                                        to go search old emails to dig
                                        up the discussions on this.</p>
                                      <p>Troy <br>
                                      </p>
                                      <p> <br>
                                      </p>
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                                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On
                                        01/06/2018 09:36 AM, Cyrille
                                        wrote: <br>
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                                        <br>
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                                        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le
                                          06/01/2018 à 17:16, Troy A.
                                          Griffitts a écrit : <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <blockquote type="cite"
                                          cite="mid:0F41A14C-6286-44A1-8737-B89B414C849F@crosswire.org">Hi
                                          Cyrille, <br>
                                          <br>
                                          Just a few comments which I
                                          hope will clear up a few
                                          things. <br>
                                          <br>
                                          The sword-tools SVN repo needs
                                          to be checked out to your
                                          computer before you can run
                                          the convert.sh for CCAT. The
                                          repo contains the .jar file
                                          you asked about. You cannot
                                          just download the individual
                                          convert.sh script. <br>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <br>
                                        Ok It's clear. I need to clone
                                        it with hg? The user is this
                                        from the automatic email send?
                                        If it is this email I can't find
                                        it again <span
                                          class="moz-smiley-s7"><span>:-</span></span>
                                        <br>
                                        <blockquote type="cite"
                                          cite="mid:0F41A14C-6286-44A1-8737-B89B414C849F@crosswire.org">
                                          <br>
                                          SWORD versifications are often
                                          a superset for multiple
                                          Bibles. The SWORD engine
                                          provides a facility for
                                          frontends to easily skip empty
                                          entries. Thus, when you
                                          discover that a chapter here
                                          or a chapter there has too
                                          many verses, it is probably
                                          that way to support another
                                          Bible which has more verses
                                          for that chapter. <br>
                                          <br>
                                          LXX v11n has been researched
                                          extensively by Chris and
                                          others. There are many issues
                                          regarding the LXX which are
                                          not easily resolved, e.g.,
                                          Rahlfs providing two textual
                                          traditions of the same book in
                                          parallel with different
                                          versifications. I h research
                                          for LXX in general can be
                                          found here: <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <a
href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/versification/lxx_v11ns/"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/versification/lxx_v11ns/</a>
                                          <br>
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                                        OK but what to do?? Is it
                                        possible to use the Rahlfs with
                                        osis2mod? Because Rahlfs is not
                                        the current one. I have the
                                        Rahlfs text. If I use the
                                        current LXX v11n with my text I
                                        will have really a lot of
                                        issues! <br>
                                        <blockquote type="cite"
                                          cite="mid:0F41A14C-6286-44A1-8737-B89B414C849F@crosswire.org">
                                          <br>
                                          Hope this helps a bit. <br>
                                          <br>
                                          Troy <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            January 6, 2018 9:01:01 AM
                                            MST, Cyrille <a
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                                              <pre class="k9mail">Hello,
Before to work on a new module for the LXX, I decided to verify the
current LXX v11n. And what was my surprise discovering many errors!
Please can you give me the list of the current modules using LXX v11n?
I will propose a new with correction, some books give me worries, like
Esther, which contains a versification in letter, I will make you a
proposal once my verification is finished. I work with the A. Rahlfs
(maybe the current LXX v11n was made with an other ?)

Best regards, Br Cyrille

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