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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">I also need the Windows utilities. We are a team of three people doing module development. We all have Windows workstations.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">We do have a Linux machine that hosts our svn, but it would be a distinct disadvantage if I have to work out a way to execute the
module builds on the Linux box, particularly since I am not even on the same lan, so would have to do it across the internet. It's
hard enough getting everything to run just on a single workstation. The extra complexity of such a hybrid setup is highly
undesirable.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">On the other hand I would be open to doing a Windows build of the utilities, but I am not at all clear how to do that. Can anybody
give me a tutorial?</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Since we are developing French modules, I am needing to get the French v11n upgrades, and this is slowing down our progress.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">John</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Thanks, Greg.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Pretty sure I won't be the only person that uses Win32 editions of the utilities,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> even I have occasionally put in a reminder whenever there's a new release. :)</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> As a Society, we should always remember that we are not a one platform outfit,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> and that there are module developers and testers that do not have a pressing need to use Linux.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Best regards,</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> David</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> -------- Original Message --------</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Win32 sword utilities for SWORD release 1.8.0 ?</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Local Time: 29 December 2017 9:11 PM</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> From: greg.hellings@gmail.com</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> To: David Haslam <dfhdfh@protonmail.com>, SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> <sword-devel@crosswire.org></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> You ask this every time there is an engine release and the answer is still the same: there </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> are no official builds of the utilities for Windows. The only supported environment for </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> running them is Linux and they are only supported when running from Subversion HEAD. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Anywhere that they run outside of that is a happy accident.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> The fact that Karl's patch for diatheke was not included in Xiphos 4.0.7's release should not </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> in any way surprise you. The patch would have been added, if it was  added, to the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Subversion HEAD. Xiphos does not release against head but releases against Sword's </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> official releases. If his patch was added, then it will be available when a version of Xiphos </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> is released against Sword 1.8.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> I have, previously, released unofficial Win32 builds of the utilities solely to placate your </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> repeated requests for them. Those are built out of the Fedora official build process (I </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> sometimes will craft a build against pre-release versions of the engine, but I still use the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Fedora release). In Fedora MinGW (win32 cross-build) environments we strive to keep the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> MinGW builds in lockstep with the native packages. I have not updated Fedora's native </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> packages for 1.8 because the Python bindings were not compiling in 1.8.0. I've committed </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> changes that enable that to compile and will release 1.8.1 with that change and any others </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> that come through in the next few days. Although the Fedora MinGW builds do not build </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> the Python bindings and should, therefore, not have a technical reason to wait for </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> upgrading to 1.8 I am trying to keep with the MinGW guidelines to keep those packages as </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> close to the native package as possible.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> When 1.8.1 hits the shelves, I will update Fedora 27 native and MinGW packages. At that </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> point, I will create a tarball of those and drop it alongside where I normally put those </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> packages on my download URL. I will be sure to let you know when I do that. But please, </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> keep in mind, there is nothing official related to CrossWire in those builds, they are not </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> supported by anyone other than myself, and there is no guarantee that they even will build </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> (although there is no malice towards allowing them to continue building, and Troy and DM </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> have generally accepted changes to keep them working when and if necessary).</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> --Greg</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">John Dudeck</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Programmer at Editions Cle                             Lyon, France</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">john.dudeck@sim.org                            john@editionscle.com</span></font></div>
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