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    I'm very happy to discover how many people use KonNYM!!<br>
    I'm working on a new version with notes. And we are translating the
    old testament...<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 09/06/2017 à 19:36, DM Smith a
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      BTW, I’ve shortened this, removing country info, so you can reply
      to it without having it bounce for being too big…
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            <div class="">On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:13 PM, DM Smith wrote:</div>
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                are the stats for as far back as we have them. Total by
                module broken out by “agent” and then by country. Other
                (SWORD) is the installmgr that doesn’t further identify
                itself like xiphos and PocketSword do. FTP &amp; HTTP -
                Direct downloads are all downloads that are not
                identified as one of the others.
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                <div class="">Given the high number of times that PorCap
                  has been downloaded, I think we need to try to
                  maintain backward compatibility.</div>
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                  <div class="">[dmsmith@www bin]$ ./moduleStats.pl
                    -name KonNYM,PorCap,SloStritar -start
                    1900-01-01 -end now<br class="">
                    16085<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>PorCap<br
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                    By agent<br class="">
                    8441<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>AndBible
                    (JSword)</div>
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                  <div class="">3290<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">        </span>Other
                    (SWORD)</div>
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                  <div class="">1490<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>Xiphos
                    (SWORD)</div>
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                  <div class="">1205<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>PocketSword
                    (SWORD)</div>
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                  <div class="">1034<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>HTTP
                    - Direct download</div>
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                  <div class="">277<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>Other
                    (JSword)</div>
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                  <div class="">251<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>Search
                    engine</div>
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                  <div class="">97<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>FTP
                    - Direct download</div>
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                  <div class="">============<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    1427<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>SloStritar<br
                      class="">
                    By agent<br class="">
                    799<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>Other
                    (SWORD)</div>
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                  <div class="">196<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>AndBible
                    (JSword)</div>
                </div>
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                  <div class="">160<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">        </span>Search
                    engine</div>
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                  <div class="">95<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>HTTP
                    - Direct download</div>
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                  <div class="">71<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">        </span>FTP
                    - Direct download</div>
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                  <div class="">71<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>Xiphos
                    (SWORD)<br class="">
                    21<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>Other
                    (JSword)<br class="">
                    14<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>PocketSword
                    (SWORD)<br class="">
                    ============<br class="">
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                    919<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>KonNYM<br
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                    By agent<br class="">
                    557<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>Other
                    (SWORD)<br class="">
                    123<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>Search
                    engine<br class="">
                    72<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>HTTP
                    - Direct download<br class="">
                    51<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>AndBible
                    (JSword)<br class="">
                    49<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>Xiphos
                    (SWORD)<br class="">
                    44<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>FTP
                    - Direct download<br class="">
                    14<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>Other
                    (JSword)<br class="">
                    9<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>PocketSword
                    (SWORD)<br class="">
                    ============<br class="">
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                        <div class="">On Jun 9, 2017, at 1:33 PM, DM
                          Smith wrote:</div>
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                            class="">I’d like to have Troy and Peter’s
                            guidance on this. It is both a software and
                            a module management issue. Back in the day,
                            we knew this was likely to happen.
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                            <div class="">I’m still gathering stats. It
                              is a slow process. I think it should help
                              inform a decision. The upshot is that
                              there are thousands of downloads of these
                              three modules since they have been
                              introduced. Some are more popular than
                              others. Details to follow.<br class="">
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                              <div class="">The question is how to go
                                forward. One way is to break backward
                                compatibility. The other is to try to
                                create a reasonable migration path.
                                (Which is what I recommend.)</div>
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                              <div class="">From an engineering
                                perspective, we can have any number of
                                versifications in the engine and they
                                can have any name. However, we’ve been
                                reluctant to add versifications,
                                especially if they are one offs. So far
                                versification names are a blend of
                                A-Za-z0-9, I don’t know if there are
                                other restrictions. It seems to follow C
                                variable naming restrictions.</div>
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                              <div class="">Things to consider when
                                updating a module’s conf.</div>
                              <div class="">MinimumVersion. When we add
                                a new versification, it is tied to a
                                particular release. This means that new
                                module potentially won’t be available
                                until the SWORD engine is released (any
                                day now….) and the front-end is updated.</div>
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                              <div class="">Obsoletes. For a module to
                                obsolete another, it needs a different
                                [Name] and have Obsoletes. It probably
                                should have a different Description (old
                                JSword bug, long since fixed, doesn’t
                                like it when two modules have the same
                                Description).</div>
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                              <div class="">Versification. It should
                                give the appropriate v11n.</div>
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                              <div class="">DM</div>
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                                    <div class="">On Jun 9, 2017, at
                                      11:13 AM, Cyrille  wrote:</div>
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                                        bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Not
                                        a lot! And Konnym doesn't have
                                        (not yet) the Old Testament. I
                                        manage it...<br class="">
                                        Then if you prefer to write a
                                        new v11n, I can do it. But what
                                        name to give it? And I would to
                                        write 2 v11n, one for esther 10
                                        and one for Esther 16.<br
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                                        A name can be CatholicEs10, and
                                        CatholicEs16?<br class="">
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                                        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le
                                          09/06/2017 à 15:46, DM Smith a
                                          écrit :<br class="">
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                                          following are in the main
                                          repository:
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                                            <div class="">Checking the
                                              download stats for these.
                                              Will get back with the
                                              results.</div>
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                                            <div class="">In Him,</div>
                                            <div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>DM</div>
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                                                <div class="">On Jun 9,
                                                  2017, at 10:37 AM,
                                                  Cyrille  wrote:</div>
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                                                  <div class="">Hi,<br
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                                                    What the solution
                                                    proposed? Is it
                                                    possible to know
                                                    exactly how modules<br
                                                      class="">
                                                    are compiled with
                                                    the Catholic and
                                                    Catholic2? I'm
                                                    interesting to know
                                                    it...<br class="">
                                                    <br class="">
                                                    Le 06/06/2017 à
                                                    14:50, DM Smith a
                                                    écrit :<br class="">
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                                                      class="">If an
                                                      existing v11n
                                                      changes, all
                                                      modules released
                                                      by it will have to
                                                      be re-released
                                                      with the update
                                                      and all front-ends
                                                      will have to be
                                                      recompiled with
                                                      it. JSword will
                                                      need to change too
                                                      and front-ends
                                                      based upon it,
                                                      also.<br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      The reason is
                                                      simple the index
                                                      file for a
                                                      testament is an
                                                      indexed array with
                                                      each verse in the
                                                      v11n having a
                                                      predetermined
                                                      index.<br class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      If no modules have
                                                      been released with
                                                      it, it is a fairly
                                                      safe change. The
                                                      risk are older
                                                      front-ends with
                                                      the wrong tables.<br
                                                        class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      Issuing a v2
                                                      (simply another
                                                      v11n with a new
                                                      name) and
                                                      deprecating the
                                                      older probably is
                                                      a safer change.<br
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                                                      In Him,<br
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