<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Matt Zabojnik <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattzab@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattzab@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">The reasons are deep and political. Those who need to know them, already know them.</span></blockquote></span><div>I appreciate your discretion in your answer. Conversion difficulties was what I was primarily concerned with, so this is, in a sense, good news.</div><span class=""><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">The text is under Copyright by Lockman. Distributing the work would not be legally permitted without obtaining their permission.</span></blockquote></span><div>Thank you. I have permission. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You have permission to distribute an NASB module from Lockman? That's interesting.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class=""><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">It's important for our own resources to know whence the upstream work was found.</span></blockquote></span><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">I see. That being the case, there's no reason I wouldn't be able to convert a PD work from Zefania XML for example, or any other format I find it in, correct?</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>From a technical perspective, you can convert from any source you can find into a module for your own use. And from a technical perspective, it's very easy to host your own module repository - requiring nothing more than an accessible HTTP serving software.<br><br></div><div>As for Zefania, I don't believe you'll get much support or encouragement from these parts surrounding Zefania.<br><br></div><div>--Greg<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Thank you for your ongoing support and information. It is indeed very helpful.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Blessings,</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Matt</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Greg Hellings <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:greg.hellings@gmail.com" target="_blank">greg.hellings@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Matt Zabojnik <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattzab@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattzab@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg">Thanks for the info!</div><span>
</span><p dir="ltr" class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg">Would you mind explaining in different terms your reason for aborting the project? I didn't fully understand. Delivering to Lockman wasn't going to work for some reason?</p></blockquote></span><div>The reasons are deep and political. Those who need to know them, already know them.<br></div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
</span><p dir="ltr" class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg">I haven't yet started working on this module, but the intent will be mass distribution rather than personal use only.</p></blockquote></span><div>The text is under Copyright by Lockman. Distributing the work would not be legally permitted without obtaining their permission.<br></div><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
</span><p dir="ltr" class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg">Is it common for people to convert stuff for personal use? And how important is it to declare where I obtained a source text for public domain materials? I didn't see coverage on either of those in the wiki.</p></blockquote></span><div>It's important for our own resources to know whence the upstream work was found. This allows repeatable module generation should the upstream source ever be updated and corrected. Very often problems are uncovered in upstream works during the module creation process and this typically continues once the module is in users' hands. The NASB, however, is not a public domain work.<br><br></div><span><div>--Greg<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848HOEnZb"><div class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848h5"><span>
</span><br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg">On Tue, Feb 21, 2017, 12:15 PM Greg Hellings <<a href="mailto:greg.hellings@gmail.com" class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg" target="_blank">greg.hellings@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><div class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><div class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg">Eons ago, Crosswire received permission from Lockman to begin work on an NSAB module that they could commercially deliver to users who paid for it.<br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"></div>Many people have tackled the work of performing the conversions from Lockman's internal, proprietary markup to a Sword module. Each one has, for various reasons, abandoned the work. Most recently it was me, and I gave up due to a lack of a consistent or realistic objective for delivery of the results to Lockman.<br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg">You can, essentially, assume that nothing more will ever come of it from the official channel. You'd be best to pursue converting another digital source for your own personal use.<br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"></div>--Greg<br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_extra m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"></div></div><div class="gmail_extra m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg">On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Matt Zabojnik <span dir="ltr" class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:mattzab@gmail.com" class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg" target="_blank">mattzab@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"></div></div><div class="gmail_extra m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">What's the status on the NASB module? I saw it mentioned in the dictionary message. This is the first I've heard of it, being new to sword devel.<br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg">I'm currently working to convert NASB with strongs, footnotes and references, but I need to learn OSIS and RegEx better first.<br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><div class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"><br class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_7257226777414875184m_8244784439851089848m_2309822074416358791gmail_msg">Who here is the point-man on tyre work that's already been done there?</div>
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