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    Hi Daniel<br>
    I'm sure you've thought of this, but can you get everything to build
    and link using VS2013?<br>
    I was having similar problems trying to call libsword functions in
    the flatapi from C# - the <br>
    libsword.dll would compile without complaint but the C# application
    would crash saying it <br>
    could not find libsword. (Hence the tutorial once I had finally
    gotten it to work.)<br>
    You might try a 'Hello World' level application that calls a
    libsword function using only <br>
    Visual Studio. If that works, you can be sure that your problems are
    between MinGW and VS<br>
    Jon<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/31/2014 7:02 PM, Daniel Sheffield
      wrote:<br>
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            <div>Hi Jon,<br>
              <br>
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            Yeah, I hadn't done all the steps correctly - nevertheless
            MSVS was still generating the dll.<br>
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          It appears it's a mingw/msvc interoperability issue because
          the dll is generated but I can't link against it.<br>
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        <div>I can't seem to build it with cmake either. I get as far as
          the libsword.a and libsword.dll.a but no libsword.dll. When I
          put those in my build dir and link: -llibsword<br>
          compiles fine but then I get run-time error libsword.dll
          missing.<br>
          <br>
          :(<br>
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          <div class="gmail_signature">--<br>
            In the beginning Kibo created the Internet. Now the Internet
            was formless, and empty. Randomness was upon the face of
            computing, and the Spirit of ARPA moved upon the face of the
            computers. Then Kibo said, "Let there be data": and there
            was data. Kibo saw the data, and it was good, so Kibo
            divided the data from the randomness, and Kibo named the
            data Information, and the randomness Clueless. And the
            Information and the Clueless were the first Network.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Jon
          Behrens <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:biz@crimsonthread.com" target="_blank">biz@crimsonthread.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Daniel<br>
              Since your problem is in the flatapi, continue in the
              instructions for the c# bindings.<br>
              There are some changes that need to be made in the dll
              export declaration to get<br>
              it to work with Windows. Those are steps 5 and 6 of the
              tutorial. Also, in step 9, you<br>
              need to make sure that the dlls listed are in the same
              directory as your project output<br>
              (or in a lib path)<br>
              Jon
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                <div class="h5"><br>
                  <div>On 12/31/2014 4:04 PM, Daniel Sheffield wrote:<br>
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                              <div>Hi Jon,<br>
                                <br>
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                              Thanks for that help, I changed icu-sword
                              dir back to icu (it really is the latest
                              icu - not icu-sword!), and rebuilt the
                              dll.<br>
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                            Still can't link to it: -lsword -licuuc54
                            -licuin54 -licudt54<br>
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                          Linker doesn't complain can't find lib or
                          anything, but still outputs the errors in my
                          prior message.<br>
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                        undefined reference to '<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true">sword:SWModule\SWMgr\SWkey\SWBuf\MarkupFilterMgr</a>'
                        - which appear to all be in flatapi.h so I
                        really don't know why they aren't their after
                        following the directions here: <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/CSharp_Bindings_on_Windows"
                          target="_blank">http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/CSharp_Bindings_on_Windows</a><br>
                        <br>
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                      Cheers for your help,<br>
                      Daniel<br>
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                        <div>--<br>
                          In the beginning Kibo created the Internet.
                          Now the Internet was formless, and empty.
                          Randomness was upon the face of computing, and
                          the Spirit of ARPA moved upon the face of the
                          computers. Then Kibo said, "Let there be
                          data": and there was data. Kibo saw the data,
                          and it was good, so Kibo divided the data from
                          the randomness, and Kibo named the data
                          Information, and the randomness Clueless. And
                          the Information and the Clueless were the
                          first Network.</div>
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                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at
                        8:03 AM, Jon Behrens <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:jbb@crimsonthread.com"
                            target="_blank">jbb@crimsonthread.com</a>&gt;</span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello Daniel<br>
                          Look here <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/CSharp_Bindings_on_Windows"
                            target="_blank">http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/CSharp_Bindings_on_Windows</a><br>
                          The first section of this tutorial deals with
                          changes needed to get Sword 1.7.3 to build<br>
                          with VS2013. You can ignore the remainder.<br>
                          Be blessed,<br>
                          Jon
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                              On 12/30/2014 8:29 PM, Daniel Sheffield
                              wrote:<br>
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                              <div> Hi all,<br>
                                <br>
                                I've been having trouble building
                                libsword.dll for windows.<br>
                                I've followed the information here: <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Tutorial:Compiling_%26_Installing_SWORD_on_Windows"
                                  target="_blank">http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Tutorial:Compiling_%26_Installing_SWORD_on_Windows</a><br>
                                <br>
                                Finally figured out (searching the
                                sword-devel archives) that all I needed
                                to do was rename icu to icu-sword and
                                similarly rename the curl output dir to
                                what MSVS was expecting and I was able
                                to build the solution.<br>
                                <br>
                                However: I can't seem to link against
                                the libsword.dll/libsword.lib.<br>
                                The only way I have been able to
                                successfully build my project with
                                libsword is by adding objects.a
                                (generated by cross-compiling libsword
                                on linux using mxe) to the list of
                                sources which effectively copies all the
                                objects in.<br>
                                <br>
                                This is what I get at compile time when
                                I link against libsword.dll<br>
                                agents\sword\sword.o:sword.cpp:(.text+0x41):
                                undefined reference to `<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">sword::MarkupFilterMgr::MarkupFilterMgr(char</a>,
                                char)'<br>
                                agents\sword\sword.o:sword.cpp:(.text+0x5c):
                                undefined reference to `<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">sword::SWMgr::SWMgr(sword::SWFilterMgr*</a>,
                                bool)'<br>
                                agents\sword\sword.o:sword.cpp:(.text+0x95):
                                undefined reference to `<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">sword::SWKey::SWKey(char</a>
                                const*)'<br>
                                agents\sword\sword.o:sword.cpp:(.text+0xb5):
                                undefined reference to `<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">sword::SWKey::~SWKey()</a>'<br>
                                agents\sword\sword.o:sword.cpp:(.text+0xdd):
                                undefined reference to `<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">sword::SWModule::renderText(char</a>
                                const*, int, bool)'<br>
                                agents\sword\sword.o:sword.cpp:(.text+0x10b):

                                undefined reference to `<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">sword::SWMgr::~SWMgr()</a>'<br>
                                agents\sword\sword.o:sword.cpp:(.text+0x129):

                                undefined reference to `<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">sword::SWKey::~SWKey()</a>'<br>
                                agents\sword\sword.o:sword.cpp:(.text+0x13a):

                                undefined reference to `<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">sword::SWMgr::~SWMgr()</a>'<br>
                                agents\sword\sword.o:sword.cpp:(.text$_ZN5sword5SWBufD1Ev[__ZN5sword5SWBufD1Ev]+0xfffffe6c):

                                undefined reference to `<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">sword::SWBuf::nullStr</a>'<br>
                                <br>
                                These compile time errors disappear when
                                I add objects.a to the list of sources
                                AND there are no run-time errors either
                                (despite neither linking against icu).<br>
                                <br>
                                I have no idea whats going on. Perhaps
                                it's because I build libsword.dll with
                                MS Visual Studio and am trying to link
                                it with MinGW's g++...<br>
                                <br>
                                If anyone can help I'd appreciate it!<br>
                                <br>
                                Daniel Sheffield<br>
                                <br>
                                Associate Engineer - Software<br>
                                Level 2, Building A, The Millennium
                                Building Phase 2, 600 Great South Road<br>
                                Ellerslie,<br>
                                Auckland,<br>
                                1051<br>
                                <br>
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                                On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Troy A. Griffitts
                                wrote:<br>
                                <br>
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                                  for subscribing!<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  On 12/30/2014 03:21 PM, Daniel
                                  Sheffield wrote:<br>
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                                    style="margin:0 0 0
                                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                    solid;padding-left:1ex"> Sorry to
                                    bother you yet again...<br>
                                    I filled out some form <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel"
                                      target="_blank">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a>
                                    and was directed to send an e-mail
                                    to sword-support to verify I am not
                                    a robot.<br>
                                    My question is when my e-mail and
                                    password will be active on
                                    sword-devel. I just tried it now and
                                    was rejected.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    I'm aware this all takes time - I'm
                                    not in a rush - just checking that
                                    I've actually completed all the
                                    steps to subscribe.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Cheers,<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Daniel Sheffield<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Associate Engineer - Software<br>
                                    Level 2, Building A, The Millennium
                                    Building Phase 2, 600 Great South
                                    Road<br>
                                    Ellerslie,<br>
                                    Auckland,<br>
                                    1051<br>
                                    <br>
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                                      href="tel:%2B64%209%20926%202895"
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                                      target="_blank">+64 9 926 2895</a> Office<br>
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                    On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Peter von
                                    Kaehne wrote:<br>
                                    <br>
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                                      Daniel, i think you should
                                      subscribe to sword-devel. Sword
                                      support is more about people not
                                      being<br>
                                      able to understand the programms
                                      they downloaded etc. I am sure
                                      your problem has been discussed<br>
                                      several times on that list.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Biblecs might be a VS programme,
                                      but most others use msys which is
                                      a pared down unixy<br>
                                      buildenvironment<br>
                                      <br>
                                      On 30 Dec 2014 20:49, Daniel
                                      Sheffield &lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:d.j.yotta@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">d.j.yotta@gmail.com</a>&gt;

                                      wrote:<br>
                                            Yeah, I've stumbled accross
                                      MSYS which appears to a particular
                                      build environment on<br>
                                            windows?<br>
                                      <br>
                                      In regards to my linking issuse,
                                      the latest news is that I have
                                      managed to link against the<br>
                                      libsword.dll.a and, because of the
                                      run time errors, tracked the
                                      undefined references down to<br>
                                      the icu*54.dlls. I'll try
                                      recompiling them (I also
                                      downloaded pre-compiled ones for
                                      icu too -<br>
                                      dunno if I've tried those).<br>
                                      <br>
                                      I don't know why, but when I use
                                      libsword.a instead of
                                      libsword.dll.a, I get neither
                                      compile<br>
                                      time nor run time errors. Then
                                      again, I haven't tried actually
                                      calling the sword functions yet<br>
                                      in my windows port - just wanted
                                      it to compile first!<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Atm, I'm reading up about all
                                      these forms of library files. I
                                      think that will help me figure<br>
                                      out what is going on.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Cheers,<br>
                                      Daniel<br>
                                      <br>
                                      -- <br>
                                      In the beginning Kibo created the
                                      Internet. Now the Internet was
                                      formless, and empty.<br>
                                      Randomness was upon the face of
                                      computing, and the Spirit of ARPA
                                      moved upon the face of the<br>
                                      computers. Then Kibo said, "Let
                                      there be data": and there was
                                      data. Kibo saw the data, and it<br>
                                      was good, so Kibo divided the data
                                      from the randomness, and Kibo
                                      named the data Information,<br>
                                      and the randomness Clueless. And
                                      the Information and the Clueless
                                      were the first Network.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 12:37 AM,
                                      Peter von Kaehne &lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:refdoc@crosswire.org"
                                        target="_blank">refdoc@crosswire.org</a>&gt;

                                      wrote:<br>
                                            Not a programmer, but i am
                                      thinking , most things are done
                                      successfully via msys<br>
                                            rather than via MS stuff.<br>
                                      <br>
                                            On 30 Dec 2014 05:34, Daniel
                                      Sheffield &lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:d.j.yotta@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">d.j.yotta@gmail.com</a>&gt;

                                      wrote:<br>
                                            &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; Hi,<br>
                                            &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; I develop mainly on
                                      linux and have been linking to the
                                      sword library for a<br>
                                            project I'm working on (bibq
                                      hosted on sourceforge).<br>
                                            &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; I have ported my
                                      project also to windows, but have
                                      been having difficulty<br>
                                            compiling libsword.dll.<br>
                                            &gt; Xiphos was the only
                                      package I could find that had this
                                      dill precompiled and I<br>
                                            tried using that.<br>
                                            &gt; After suffering dll
                                      hell, I finally managed to find
                                      all the dlls the xiphos<br>
                                            libsword.dll depended on
                                      only to have missing functions at
                                      runtime.<br>
                                            &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; Idealy, I want to
                                      compile libsword.dll from scratch
                                      but I have tried every which<br>
                                            way to do this.<br>
                                            &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; . I followed the
                                      instructions here:<br>
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://crosswire.org/wiki/Tutorial:Compiling_%26_Installing_SWORD_on_Windows"
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                                            eventually building all the
                                      dependancies except clucene which
                                      eludes all attempts<br>
                                            at building on windows. I
                                      attempted compiling without
                                      clucene and appeared to get<br>
                                            errors that didn't relate to
                                      clucene anyhow and couldn't
                                      progress any further.<br>
                                            &gt; . I then tried
                                      cross-compiling on linux targeted
                                      at windows. I used mxe and<br>
                                            things went pretty smoothly
                                      but I get link errors at the final
                                      step of linking<br>
                                            libsword.dll (to do with
                                      icu).<br>
                                            &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; I'm about ready to give
                                      up and use jsword - but that feels
                                      so wrong!<br>
                                            &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; I guess I'm not really
                                      expecting to be hand-held through
                                      the build process, but<br>
                                            my main question is why I
                                      can't simply build using MS Visual
                                      Studio? There seems<br>
                                            to be a problem with MS
                                      Visual Studio 2013 as I've
                                      encountered even errors such as<br>
                                            "can not find
                                      stdio.h/stdlib.h" when generating
                                      the clucene solution with cmake.<br>
                                            The solution file for SWORD
                                      also doesn't build. I'm most
                                      likely noobing something<br>
                                            here though because I never
                                      develop on windows before - other
                                      than "hello world"<br>
                                            type stuff. And now I know
                                      why!<br>
                                            &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; Cheers if you can help.<br>
                                            &gt; Daniel<br>
                                            &gt; --<br>
                                            &gt; In the beginning Kibo
                                      created the Internet. Now the
                                      Internet was formless, and<br>
                                            empty. Randomness was upon
                                      the face of computing, and the
                                      Spirit of ARPA moved<br>
                                            upon the face of the
                                      computers. Then Kibo said, "Let
                                      there be data": and there was<br>
                                            data. Kibo saw the data, and
                                      it was good, so Kibo divided the
                                      data from the<br>
                                            randomness, and Kibo named
                                      the data Information, and the
                                      randomness Clueless. And<br>
                                            the Information and the
                                      Clueless were the first Network.<br>
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