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      \h titles are not. There is no \h1 or \h2, only \h.<br>
      Preserving the bilingual running headers of the print edition
      would have to be done in a typesetting/printing process. Multiple
      \h headers would not have the desired effect in any electronic
      publication format I'm aware of, including Sword and HTML. Haiola,
      for example, when reading USFM to make web pages or inScript
      modules, will only remember the last \h encountered in a book, and
      probably throw an error if there is an \h1 tag. Paratext will
      throw an error at multiple \h tags or including a level number in
      \h.<br>
      <br>
      USFM represents a common core of tags that is necessary to
      represent the text of a Bible, but is by design not flexible
      enough to do anything you want. OSIS is, but only if you write
      both the input and output processes-- and that isn't very
      practical. My recommendation for now is to omit the English
      running headers in the Malayalam Bible USFM. If you want to mark
      where they should be for the future, you can do so with \rem
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      other common output formats, but could be manually read and acted
      upon by someone doing manual typesetting in the future.<br>
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      On 04/08/2014 06:02 AM, Baiju M wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">To include the English running header along with
        Malayalam, can I use multiple \h1 ?<br>
        How is this formating for 1. John ?<br>
        <br>
        \id 1JN 63_1Jn.usfm സത്യവേദപുസ്തകം<br>
        \ide UTF-8<br>
        \h1 1. John<br>
        \h1 1. യോഹന്നാൻ<br>
        \toc1 യോഹന്നാൻ എഴുതിയ ഒന്നാം ലേഖനം<br>
        \toc2 1. യോഹന്നാൻ<br>
        \toc3 1 യോഹ.<br>
        \mt2 THE FIRST EPISTLE OF<br>
        \mt1 JOHN<br>
        \mt1 യോഹന്നാൻ എഴുതിയ ഒന്നാം ലേഖനം<br>
        ...<br>
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          On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Baiju M <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                      <div>I think repeating the \mt# would be better to
                        preserve the original titles.<br>
                        So, there will be two sets for each book, one
                        set for English and<br>
                        another for Malayalam.<br>
                        <br>
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                      <div>The example you given will change like this
                        based on the original title:<br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://i.imgur.com/yj7Tbu0.jpg"
                          target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/yj7Tbu0.jpg</a><br>
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                      \mt2 THE GOSPEL<br>
                      \mt1 ACCORDING TO JOHN<br>
                      \mt1 യോഹന്നാൻ എഴുതിയ സുവിശേഷം<br>
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                    There is another issue with page headers. As you can
                    see in the two images I have given<br>
                    in this mail thread, Malayalam bible use both
                    English and Malayalam in the page headers.<br>
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                  All the prints that I have seen use two column
                  printing.  For the left side page, Malayalam<br>
                  short heading is used above the first column and
                  English short heading is used above<br>
                  the second column.  For the right side page, Malayalam
                  short heading is used above<br>
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                the second column and English short heading is used
                above the first column.<br>
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              Here is a better picture to show the case I explained:<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://i.imgur.com/x7lJWJv.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/x7lJWJv.jpg</a><br>
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                    <div>Is there any tag for page headers ?<br>
                      <br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:03
                    AM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                    wrote:<br>
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                        <div>If the printed Bible has both Malayalam and
                          English titles, those can both be put in using
                          the \mt# tags. You shouldn't go deeper than
                          \mt3, though. You can have more than one of
                          each level. The level indicates relative size
                          or emphasis, like:<br>
                          \mt2 The Good News<br>
                          \mt3 According to<br>
                          \mt1 John<br>
                          You can have more than one of each title
                          level, though, so you can repeat the whole set
                          in Malayalam. Or use \mt1 for Malayalam and
                          \mt2 for English. Whatever you do, though, the
                          \toc1, \toc2, and \toc3 tags should all have
                          Malayalam contents.
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                            <div> On 04/07/2014 06:00 PM, Baiju M wrote:<br>
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                                <div>Thanks David &amp; Michael for the
                                  feedback!<br>
                                  <br>
                                  In the Malayalam bible printed by the
                                  Bible Society of India,<br>
                                  they used both Malayalam and English
                                  in the title.<br>
                                  Sometimes the title span 4 lines as
                                  given here:<br>
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                <div>Use \m1 upto \mt4 ?<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Should I handle this or just ignore
                                  English titles ?<br>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 8,
                                  2014 at 1:51 AM, Kahunapule Michael
                                  Johnson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                  wrote:<br>
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                                      <div>Hello, Baiju.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        The USFM looks mostly good, but
                                        the title set seems to be in
                                        need of editing. Also, proper
                                        USFM requires that a paragraph
                                        type be started between any
                                        chapter mark and the first
                                        verse. Normally, this is just a
                                        plain paragraph, like<br>
                                        <br>
                                        \c 1<br>
                                        \p<br>
                                        \v 1 ആദിമുതലുള്ളതും ഞങ്ങൾ
                                        കേട്ടതും സ്വന്ത കണ്ണുകൊണ്ടു
                                        കണ്ടതും ഞങ്ങൾ നോക്കിയതും<br>
                                        \v 2 ...<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Also, the \h, \toc1, \toc2,
                                        \toc3, and \mt tags should all
                                        be in the vernacular (i.e.
                                        Malayalam), and appear in that
                                        order.<br>
                                        \h is a short title (i.e. "1
                                        John") of the book for running
                                        headers and book selection links<br>
                                        \toc1 is the long title (i.e.
                                        "The First Letter from the
                                        Apostle John")<br>
                                        \toc2 is the short title (i.e.
                                        "1 John")<br>
                                        \toc3 is the abbreviation of
                                        this book used in footnotes and
                                        cross references (i.e. "1 Jn")<br>
                                        The \mt set can be used like:<br>
                                        \mt2 The First Letter from the
                                        Apostle<br>
                                        \mt1 John<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Normally, \h and \toc2 have the
                                        same content, give or take
                                        capitalization.<br>
                                        Normally, \toc1 is the same as
                                        all of the \mt# tags
                                        concatenated together (but not
                                        always, as sometimes translators
                                        put both long and short titles
                                        in their entirety in those tags)<br>
                                        If \toc3 is present, it should
                                        be a consistently-used
                                        abbreviation or it may be the
                                        same as \toc2 if no
                                        abbreviations are used.<br>
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                                          <div> On 04/06/2014 11:24 PM,
                                            Baiju M wrote:<br>
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                                            <pre>Hi,

I have added few USFM files for Malayalam bible here:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://bitbucket.org/sathyavedapusthakam/svpm" target="_blank">https://bitbucket.org/sathyavedapusthakam/svpm</a>
Please review the file structure and let me know if any changes required.

I have created USFM files for those books which I proofread myself.
So it may take more time to complete this work unless more volunteers
coming forward to proofread the text.


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Baiju M <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:baiju.m.mail@gmail.com" target="_blank">&lt;baiju.m.mail@gmail.com&gt;</a> wrote:
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                                              <pre>Hi,

The source files were uploaded by Nishad H. Kaippally to wiki source:

<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://ml.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%B4%89%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%8B%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%8D:Kaippally" target="_blank">http://ml.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%B4%89%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%8B%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%8D:Kaippally</a>

He also maintains another source here:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.malayalambible.in" target="_blank">http://www.malayalambible.in</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.malayalambible.in/docs_faq.htm" target="_blank">http://www.malayalambible.in/docs_faq.htm</a> (FAQ)

If nobody else working on Malayalam, I would like to start working on it. I
am very new here, so I need some pointers to start.

I am thinking to use wiki source version as the base. Should I move that
source into a different format (non wiki) ? Should I keep it under version
control ?

Looking forward to your suggestions.

On Feb 27, 2014 3:03 AM, "Mike Hart" <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:just_mike_y@yahoo.com" target="_blank">&lt;just_mike_y@yahoo.com&gt;</a> wrote:
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                                                <pre>That page is in Malayalam, but appears to claim the bible being presented
at that wikisource page is an 1870 British and Foreign Bible Society work
(possibly updated in 1910).  However, my ability to read Malayalam is
somewhat nonexistent.  One of the links close to the Bottom takes you to
individual page views of a PDF which claims on this page:

Encoded by Nishad H. Kaippally 1992 From the Orignal Bible Society of
India Bible. Please report errors in content to <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:kaippally@gmail.com" target="_blank">kaippally@gmail.com</a>

It looks like a clean source (from the standpoint of provenance) if this
can be verified.


On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:35 PM, Baiju M <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:baiju.m.mail@gmail.com" target="_blank">&lt;baiju.m.mail@gmail.com&gt;</a>
wrote:
Hi,
Is there anyone working on Malayalam (Indian language) module ?
I found this free text here. Is it possible to use it as a source ?

<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://ml.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%A6%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%81%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82" target="_blank">http://ml.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%A6%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%81%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82</a>
Regards,
Baiju M

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