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On 07/11/2011 01:49 PM, Martin Denham wrote:
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cite="mid:CAJ30_OO3oGWC1=MWQ0uWRntZFj1ZFc4XQ03zMDjnEMRG6+SW1Q@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I have asked a Russian user to look at it and he and a
Russian pastor think it looks okay but he is going to give more
feedback in 2 weeks. Are the differences documented anywhere so I
can tell my contact of possible problem areas to check?</blockquote>
You'd have to compare the KJV and the Russian versifications (v11n)
to tell what the differences are. But it might help to understand
how a SWORD module is laid out.<br>
1) The verses are numbered in order from first to last. Special
provision is made for testament, book and chapter introductions,
with these being counted whether present or not.<br>
2) When a Book, Chapter and Verse is given, it is converted to one
of these numbers.<br>
3) That number is used as an index into the module to fetch the
requested verse.<br>
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It's number 2) that causes the issues. A non-KJV v11n can differ
from the KJV v11n in the following ways:<br>
a) Books can be in a different order.<br>
b) A book can have more chapters.<br>
c) A book can have fewer chapters.<br>
d) A chapter can have more verses.<br>
e) A chapter can have less verses.<br>
f) A chapter might end early and the next chapter start early.<br>
g) A chapter might start late and the previous chapter end late.<br>
h) A passage might appear in a different location.<br>
i) ...<br>
<br>
The upshot is that if the index 27652 is used to get a verse it
might not be what the user wants. The larger the index, the more
likely that it is not what the user wanted.<br>
<br>
JSword has another limitation, it validates the input for 2). If a
chapter number is given for a book or a verse number is given for a
chapter and it is not in range of the KJV v11n an exception is
thrown.<br>
<br>
So, I agree with Chris, don't give access to av11n modules.<br>
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-- DM<br>
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<div>I don't have (deliberately haven't enabled) detailed stats of
users but I can see a breakdown of by country/language - top 10
only. Russian used to be in the middle somewhere but now it has
dropped off the bottom so I have no record of Russian users.</div>
<div>One reason we appear to have lost users might be the dynamic
nature apps are installed/uninstalled on mobiles and mobiles
upgraded fairly frequently compared to pcs.</div>
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<div>Martin</div>
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On 10 July 2011 06:07, Chris Little <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:chrislit@crosswire.org">chrislit@crosswire.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="im">On 7/9/2011 1:46 PM, Martin Denham wrote:<br>
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I loaded the new russynodal module from<br>
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href="ftp://ftp.crosswire.org/pub/sword/avraw"
target="_blank">ftp://ftp.crosswire.org/pub/sword/avraw</a>
into And Bible recently and it<br>
seems to look fine.<br>
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Doesn't And Bible not support av11n? If it doesn't, I would
not recommend making the avraw repo available to And Bible
users. Since the book order, chapter counts, & verse
counts are all radically different in the Synodal v11n
(relative to the KJV), the correspondence between verse
number (as reported by And Bible) and verse text will
quickly become very inaccurate. (In the NT, it might not be
so bad, though.)
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I was wondering if this module should work well enough
with existing<br>
apps to make it available to users. Most Russian users
stopped using<br>
And Bible when the original rst was removed.<br>
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"Most Russian users" quit using And Bible after a module
that they had already installed was removed from the repo?<br>
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--Chris<br>
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