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On 09/30/2010 11:11 AM, David Troidl wrote:
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Hi Robert,<br>
<br>
There are many Unicode characters for hyphens and dashes. Could
you substitute, for example, the hyphen from General Punctuation
(&#x2010;)? This would give the proper appearance, without
conflicting with the 'normal' hyphen separator.<br>
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I think this is at core a user input problem. Telling users that
they have to use a special character that is not on their keyboard
is a problem. I don't think it will do at all.<br>
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If we parse the user input to figure out whether a hyphen is a range
specifier or part of a name and if part of a name then substitute it
with something else, then we should add that to the SWORD reference
parser.<br>
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Peace,<br>
<br>
David<br>
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On 9/29/2010 5:28 PM, Robert Hunt wrote:
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On 30/09/10 10:17, Greg Hellings wrote:
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<p>OP was not talking about a transliteration from the sounds
of his email, but rather the original language where the
hyphen is a letter.</p>
<p>You are equivalently proposing an English speaker to not
use the letter s in the Bible names list. It might be
comprehensible but it would be horrible usability and I
probably wouldn't take such software seriously!</p>
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Exactly!<br>
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<p>Perhaps allowing each locale to define its own numerals and
hyphen-like character would be a good solution?</p>
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Yes, I'm sure there's probably dozens of languages in the world
that are likely to have hyphens in book names. Even in English,
hyphen is a valid letter as you can see in the sentence above.
(It's just fortunate that it doesn't occur in book names.<br>
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Surely this issue has come up many times before???<br>
<br>
Robert.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 29, 2010 4:08 PM, "Daniel
Owens" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dhowens@pmbx.net">dhowens@pmbx.net</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
> <br>
> On 09/29/2010 03:55 PM, Robert Hunt wrote:<br>
>> New Zealand.<br>
>><br>
>> Hello all,<br>
>><br>
>> I am spending today studying the documentation on
the Crosswire <br>
>> Sword wiki so I'm likely to have a few questions.
Please let me know <br>
>> if this is not the right forum to ask questions.<br>
>><br>
>> I see in <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:SWORD">http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:SWORD</a>
that <br>
>> localised book names are not allowed hyphens in
them (because the <br>
>> hyphen is used for verse ranges). In the Philippine
language that we <br>
>> worked with as Bible translators, the hyphen is a
letter in the <br>
>> alphabet and appears in several book names!<br>
>><br>
>> Is this still a current limitation? If so, what is
the suggested <br>
>> work-around.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Robert.<br>
>><br>
> This problem came up with Vietnamese, and I was just
told to drop the <br>
> hyphens. The result was not ideal, but in the end it is
still <br>
> comprehensible in Vietnamese. I think the hyphen was
needed because <br>
> Vietnamese is monosyllabic, but more recent
"transliterations" of <br>
> foreign names have simply dropped the hyphens. Would
the names still be <br>
> comprehensible without the hyphen?<br>
> <br>
> Daniel</div>
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