<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi DM Smith,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I tried Bible Desktop yesterday and I simply cannot install any modules. It behaves weirdly. Is unable to find the modules on the net and doesn't allow me to "Edit sites...", when I click on the button nothing happens. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Jónatas</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>Em 2006/05/03, às 12:27, DM Smith escreveu:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Have you tried BibleDesktop? It works on the Mac. You can get it from <A href="http://www.crosswire.org/bibledesktop">www.crosswire.org/bibledesktop</A>. I'd be interested to know if it has problems, too.<DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On May 2, 2006, at 9:05 AM, Jónatas Ferreira wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Hi Sérgio,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>When I say the portuguese module is corrupted I don't mean it has error in the text itself, but in the encoding (although I found some misspellings). </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I use MacSword and Will (the developer) made some changes to the search engine that make it much better, but, due to the problems in the PorAA module, I can't use it because it causes the App to crash. Maybe if you can send me that files you talk about I can correct the module (or you can send me the corrected module). At the moment I am unable to search within the PorAA module and the program keeps crashing a whole lot of times, almost always because of that module. If I don't use the module at all, most times I work for hours without a single problem, if I start to use it, I start to have problems. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>It would be great to correct the module entirely and post an update to the module at crosswire.org.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Yours,</DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Arial" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Arial"><B>Jónatas da Cruz Ferreira</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Arial Narrow; min-height: 11px; "><B></B><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size="2" style="font: 10.0px Arial Narrow"><B>__________________________</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Arial Narrow; min-height: 11px; "><B></B><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size="1" style="font: 9.0px Arial Narrow"><B>AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE:</B> Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros eventualmente anexos, é confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinatária(s). 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I wrote to</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the list saying that and I have never had an answer.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Is it possible to get your corrected copy anyway? It would be very</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">helpfull (at least for now).</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hello Jonatas!</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Indeed, the PorAA has some problems with strange characters at each verse</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">ending and with some accents, like the "à". But that it is a corrupted</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">copy of a copyrighted work is the personal opinion of Leandro Dutra. It is</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">normal that you cannot find any bible in print with the exact text of this</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">version, as the brazilian bible editors have changed a bit the translation</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">over the years to ameliorate it and also to have copyright rights over the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">new text (and in this way preserve their commercial interests).</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If you look at the history of this list, you will see a message (I think</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">that by Chris Little) where he affirms that Crosswire Society knows where</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">this version traces to, and that it has no copyright problems. Notice that</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the translation by Joao Ferreira de Almeida is very old (dates from the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">XVII century--for the new testament at least), so it has multiple</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">revisions by different bodies, some free of copyright, some others not.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The modifications of Leandro could not be accepted because he has not only</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">solved the technical problems of the module, he has also updated the text</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">to reflect the copyrighted work that he mentions. So it could no longer be</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">distributed without the authorization of the copyright holders of that</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">version.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Saying that this version is corrupted is a very far cry. I use it</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">frequently in a small group study group, where we are from different</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">nationalities, and we normally use the PorAA, the King James (english) and</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the Louis Segond (french) at the same time, to study the same text. I've</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">never found a "corruption" in the PorAA text (I'm brazilian but also</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">fluent in english and french). In fact, it is often almost the same as the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">King James version.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">So, I think that you can use the PorAA without fears of having a corrupted</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">version. And it is much better to have a free portuguese module with some</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">technical problems than no portuguese module at all. I have at home a</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">small shell script that I have used to correct the problems with the "à"</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">and the "À" as well as the strange characters at the end of verses, I can</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">try to find it and send you later. Unfortunately I had to change my hard</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">disk recently (hardware failure) and I had not yet the time to restore my</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">backups.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Have a good time studying God's word!</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Fraternellement,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Sergio</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">sword-devel mailing list: <A href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org">sword-devel@crosswire.org</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">sword-devel mailing list: <A href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org">sword-devel@crosswire.org</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">sword-devel mailing list: <A href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org">sword-devel@crosswire.org</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>