From scribe at crosswire.org  Thu Dec  1 08:13:09 2016
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 08:13:09 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Strange option filters
In-Reply-To: <4e97b505-f5a1-3691-31ce-51c6771938b4@ristioja.ee>
References: <35807a3e-1722-f964-9259-40dde3e3c49a@ristioja.ee>
	<4e97b505-f5a1-3691-31ce-51c6771938b4@ristioja.ee>
Message-ID: <d23ed649-2fae-063d-7249-d83b74d5441d@crosswire.org>

Not looking at the code, but quickly I can comment that the PapyriPlain 
filter is used with the Duke Databank of Papyri as a LocalOptionFilter 
(not added to the list of global options presented to the user to 
toggle, but can still be toggled programmatically).  Hope this helps.

Troy


On 11/30/2016 03:03 PM, Jaak Ristioja wrote:
> On 27.10.2016 22:54, Jaak Ristioja wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> While refactoring some option filters code for Sword++ I found two
>> strange option filters, GreekLexAttribs and PapyriPlain which inherit
>> from SWOptionFilter and use SWOptionFilter::SWOptionFilter(). This
>> behavior was introduced in SVN 1864:
>>
>>      commit bdc81675088ca687338ca29acef6c384710b6bcf
>>      Author: scribe <scribe at bcd7d363-81e1-0310-97ec-a550e20fc99c>
>>      Date:   Sun Nov 20 06:06:40 2005 +0000
>>
>>                  Cleaned up headers to remove unnecessary includes
>>
>>      git-svn-id: https://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk at 1864
>> bcd7d363-81e1-0310-97ec-a550e20fc99c
>>
>> Neither of those classes override any of the SWOptionFilter methods for
>> options, hence the effects of SWOptionFilter::SWOptionFilter() are
>> permanent for instances of these classes. This means that
>> getOptionName() returns "" for both of these classes. This looks as if
>> it could cause problems for SWMgr which seems to rely on these being
>> unique strings for each class (e.g. in SWMgr::AddGlobalOptions). So its
>> rather confusing.
>>
>> Some SWMgr methods test whether getOptionName() returns NULL. I couldn't
>> find any conclusive hints in Sword source code to describe the rationale
>> of it returning NULL. None of the Sword classes themselves seem to
>> return NULL themselves. So the only possible way for getOptionName() to
>> return NULL is for some child class overriding getOptionName() or
>> overwriting that protected field. Before SVN 1864 these virtual methods
>> were also part of SWFilter and their defaults returned NULL (well, 0).
>> Can someone please enlighten me about this code?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Many blessings,
>> Jaak
>>
>> PS: Should these two classes actually be simple On/Off-style option
>> filters and properly call the other SWOptionFilter constructor?
> Bump.
>
>
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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Fri Dec  2 02:56:00 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 01:56:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] Strange option filters
In-Reply-To: <d23ed649-2fae-063d-7249-d83b74d5441d@crosswire.org>
References: <35807a3e-1722-f964-9259-40dde3e3c49a@ristioja.ee>
	<4e97b505-f5a1-3691-31ce-51c6771938b4@ristioja.ee>
	<d23ed649-2fae-063d-7249-d83b74d5441d@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <1480672560853-4656571.post@n4.nabble.com>

Thanks Troy,

Is it safe to assume that the example you gave for the Duke Databank of
Documentary Papyri
( http://papyri.info/docs/ddbdp )
is for use with some specialist software that's based on SWORD ?
i.e. Not one of our well-known front-ends.

Just updated https://crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:conf_Files#Strip_Filters

Best wishes,

David



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From baiju.m.mail at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 19:27:45 2016
From: baiju.m.mail at gmail.com (Baiju M)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:57:45 +0530
Subject: [sword-devel] Punjabi Bible 1945
Message-ID: <CAN8ZCbyf1G0YjrBY-HMo_hJbuKwccbh8_aVn1L0TeZHYy7+9Qw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

We have completed proofreading of Punjabi Bible 1945.
The USFM source files are available here:
https://github.com/tfbf/punjabi_bible_1945

This Bible text is copyright expired as per Indian copyright law.
But not sure about the legal state in the US.

Can you create and host the SWORD module in Crosswire site?

Regards,
Baiju M


From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Sat Dec 24 07:13:02 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 06:13:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] Punjabi Bible 1945
In-Reply-To: <CAN8ZCbyf1G0YjrBY-HMo_hJbuKwccbh8_aVn1L0TeZHYy7+9Qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN8ZCbyf1G0YjrBY-HMo_hJbuKwccbh8_aVn1L0TeZHYy7+9Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1482588782922-4656573.post@n4.nabble.com>

Hi Baiju,

Observations:
There is no verse text in the file 66_JUDFBPa.usfm - only 5 header lines!
The file 45_ACTFBPa.usfm contains two malformed tags \\p in lines 883, 889.

None of the 27 NT books have a running header tag \h
None of the 27 NT books have any table of contrents tag \toc1 \toc2

The main titles tag \mt1 are all in English rather than Punjabi.

After correcting the two tags in 45_ACTFBPa.usfm, I just ran a versification
issues scan omitting these two files that caused the tool to stop
responding:
59_HEBFBPa.usfm
67_REVFBPa.usfm

It will require further effort to find out why these two files crashed.
The utility isn't perfect. It was designed as a Go Bible USFM files
preprocessor.

It may be that en empty verse at the end of a chapter is the cause.
Both these files contain one such instance.

These are the remaining results:

Versification Issues
Filename	Chapter	Verse
41_MATFBPa.usfm	3		No actual verse text detected; only tag information
detected [\p 13 ?? ???? ???? ??? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ????? ???????
??? ??? ??? |
]
41_MATFBPa.usfm	18	11	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
42_MRKFBPa.usfm	9	43	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
42_MRKFBPa.usfm	9	46	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
42_MRKFBPa.usfm	15	28	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
43_LUKFBPa.usfm	17	36	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
43_LUKFBPa.usfm	23	17	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
44_JHNFBPa.usfm	1	33	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
44_JHNFBPa.usfm	1	52	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
44_JHNFBPa.usfm	5	5	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
44_JHNFBPa.usfm	9	41/2	PROBLEM: Verse number 2 is following verse 41
44_JHNFBPa.usfm	9	15	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
45_ACTFBPa.usfm	1	6/6	PROBLEM: Verse number 6 is following verse 6
45_ACTFBPa.usfm	8	37	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
45_ACTFBPa.usfm	15	34	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
45_ACTFBPa.usfm	28	28	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
46_ROMFBPa.usfm	7	26	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
46_ROMFBPa.usfm	16	24	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
47_1COFBPa.usfm	5	13	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
47_1COFBPa.usfm	6	10	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
47_1COFBPa.usfm	9	27/2	PROBLEM: Verse number 2 is following verse 27
47_1COFBPa.usfm	11	19	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
47_1COFBPa.usfm	13	4	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
47_1COFBPa.usfm	13	9	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
47_1COFBPa.usfm	15	16	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
53_1THFBPa.usfm	3	2	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
54_2THFBPa.usfm	2	17	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
60_JASFBPa.usfm	1	8	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
61_1PEFBPa.usfm	3	2	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
64_2JNFBPa.usfm	1	14	No actual verse text detected; empty verse
64_2JNFBPa.usfm	1	15	No actual verse text detected; empty verse

All these issues require your team's attention before module making can
commence.

The copyright issues need to be further researched, seeing as the modules
hosting server is located in the USA.

Best regards,

David



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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Sat Dec 24 07:25:13 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 06:25:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] Punjabi Bible 1945
In-Reply-To: <1482588782922-4656573.post@n4.nabble.com>
References: <CAN8ZCbyf1G0YjrBY-HMo_hJbuKwccbh8_aVn1L0TeZHYy7+9Qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1482588782922-4656573.post@n4.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1482589513097-4656574.post@n4.nabble.com>

The Windows based utility may be downloaded from 
https://gbcpreprocessor.codeplex.com/

It was developed by Dirk Kaiser of MAF Learning Technologies.
It's no longer being actively developed.

This tip is very useful for Windows users.

https://gbcpreprocessor.codeplex.com/discussions/406359

Best regards,

David



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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Sat Dec 24 07:31:45 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 06:31:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] Punjabi Bible 1945
In-Reply-To: <CAN8ZCbyf1G0YjrBY-HMo_hJbuKwccbh8_aVn1L0TeZHYy7+9Qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN8ZCbyf1G0YjrBY-HMo_hJbuKwccbh8_aVn1L0TeZHYy7+9Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1482589905391-4656575.post@n4.nabble.com>

Module request noted in
https://crosswire.org/wiki/Module_Requests#Indian_subcontinent

David



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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Sat Dec 24 08:13:26 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:13:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] Punjabi Bible 1945
In-Reply-To: <1482588782922-4656573.post@n4.nabble.com>
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	<1482588782922-4656573.post@n4.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1482592406898-4656576.post@n4.nabble.com>

Baiju,

Further non-critical observation.

It would be more consistent to always have the paragraph tag \p 
on its own line, rather than you have it like this in some files. e.g.

\p \v 1 ?? ???? ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ??

It makes for easier reading when all the verse tags line up in the margin.

Best regards,

David



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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Sun Dec 25 09:39:10 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 08:39:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] Punjabi Bible 1945
In-Reply-To: <1482588782922-4656573.post@n4.nabble.com>
References: <CAN8ZCbyf1G0YjrBY-HMo_hJbuKwccbh8_aVn1L0TeZHYy7+9Qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1482588782922-4656573.post@n4.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1482683950917-4656577.post@n4.nabble.com>

Further potentially useful information:

USFM tag statistics for the complete set of 66 files (concatenated).

Count	SFM tag	Description
-----	--------	-----------
01186	\c	Chapter
00039	\h	Running header
00066	\id	Identification
00066	\ide	Character encoding specification (optional)
00105	\mt1	Major title (portion 1)
01905	\p	Paragraph
00132	\rem	Remark
00042	\s	Section heading
00039	\toc1	Table of contents 1 (Long  table of contents text)
00039	\toc2	Table of contents 2 (Short table of contents text)
31081	\v	Verse[s]

NB. This is after the minor corrections to the two lines in 45_ACTFBPa.usfm
that had malformed tags.


Best regards,

David



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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Sun Dec 25 09:50:41 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 08:50:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] Punjabi Bible 1945
In-Reply-To: <1482588782922-4656573.post@n4.nabble.com>
References: <CAN8ZCbyf1G0YjrBY-HMo_hJbuKwccbh8_aVn1L0TeZHYy7+9Qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1482588782922-4656573.post@n4.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1482684641604-4656578.post@n4.nabble.com>

Dear Baiju,

The left square bracket in Joshua 5:15 is the only one in the project.
I suspect it is spurious. Probably a typo!

Below is a character frequency analysis for the concatenated USFM file for
the whole work.
Upon request, I can supply this as a tab delimited text file.

Any codepoint that occurs only once (or even just in single figures) is
suspect.

There may be other things herein that merit your team's detailed attention.
e.g. Mismatched counts for left and right parentheses & left and right
quotation marks, etc.

Best regards,

David

Code point	Character	Count	Character Name
U+0009	\t	9	<control>
U+0020	 	860,169	SPACE
U+0021	!	2,995	EXCLAMATION MARK
U+0022	"	306	QUOTATION MARK
U+0027	'	95	APOSTROPHE
U+0028	(	42	LEFT PARENTHESIS
U+0029	)	44	RIGHT PARENTHESIS
U+002A	*	76	ASTERISK
U+002C	,	29,419	COMMA
U+002D	-	1,578	HYPHEN-MINUS
U+002E	.	60	FULL STOP
U+002F	/	1	SOLIDUS
U+0030	0	2,753	DIGIT ZERO
U+0031	1	14,329	DIGIT ONE
U+0032	2	10,019	DIGIT TWO
U+0033	3	6,361	DIGIT THREE
U+0034	4	4,619	DIGIT FOUR
U+0035	5	3,748	DIGIT FIVE
U+0036	6	3,349	DIGIT SIX
U+0037	7	3,113	DIGIT SEVEN
U+0038	8	3,010	DIGIT EIGHT
U+0039	9	2,804	DIGIT NINE
U+003A	:	166	COLON
U+003B	;	46	SEMICOLON
U+003F	?	3,012	QUESTION MARK
U+0041	A	100	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A
U+0042	B	99	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B
U+0043	C	134	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C
U+0044	D	102	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D
U+0045	E	30	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E
U+0046	F	252	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER F
U+0047	G	8	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER G
U+0048	H	20	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H
U+0049	I	51	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I
U+004A	J	24	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER J
U+004B	K	7	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER K
U+004C	L	53	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L
U+004D	M	16	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER M
U+004E	N	17	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N
U+004F	O	57	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O
U+0050	P	54	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P
U+0052	R	12	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R
U+0053	S	58	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S
U+0054	T	213	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T
U+0055	U	75	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U
U+0056	V	95	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER V
U+0058	X	2	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER X
U+005A	Z	6	LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Z
U+005B	[	1	LEFT SQUARE BRACKET
U+005C	\	34,700	REVERSE SOLIDUS
U+005F	_	8	LOW LINE
U+0060	`	1	GRAVE ACCENT
U+0061	a	198	LATIN SMALL LETTER A
U+0062	b	175	LATIN SMALL LETTER B
U+0063	c	1,310	LATIN SMALL LETTER C
U+0064	d	226	LATIN SMALL LETTER D
U+0065	e	747	LATIN SMALL LETTER E
U+0066	f	40	LATIN SMALL LETTER F
U+0067	g	138	LATIN SMALL LETTER G
U+0068	h	147	LATIN SMALL LETTER H
U+0069	i	756	LATIN SMALL LETTER I
U+006A	j	39	LATIN SMALL LETTER J
U+006B	k	45	LATIN SMALL LETTER K
U+006C	l	146	LATIN SMALL LETTER L
U+006D	m	368	LATIN SMALL LETTER M
U+006E	n	356	LATIN SMALL LETTER N
U+006F	o	434	LATIN SMALL LETTER O
U+0070	p	1,948	LATIN SMALL LETTER P
U+0072	r	434	LATIN SMALL LETTER R
U+0073	s	250	LATIN SMALL LETTER S
U+0074	t	622	LATIN SMALL LETTER T
U+0075	u	181	LATIN SMALL LETTER U
U+0076	v	31,123	LATIN SMALL LETTER V
U+0077	w	2	LATIN SMALL LETTER W
U+0079	y	135	LATIN SMALL LETTER Y
U+007A	z	95	LATIN SMALL LETTER Z
U+007C	|	26,291	VERTICAL LINE
U+0964	?	3,563	DEVANAGARI DANDA
U+0A01	?	1	GURMUKHI SIGN ADAK BINDI
U+0A02	?	125,280	GURMUKHI SIGN BINDI
U+0A05	?	54,785	GURMUKHI LETTER A
U+0A06	?	76,893	GURMUKHI LETTER AA
U+0A07	?	21,555	GURMUKHI LETTER I
U+0A08	?	19,575	GURMUKHI LETTER II
U+0A09	?	64,327	GURMUKHI LETTER U
U+0A0A	?	2,268	GURMUKHI LETTER UU
U+0A0F	?	13,309	GURMUKHI LETTER EE
U+0A10	?	1,483	GURMUKHI LETTER AI
U+0A13	?	9,587	GURMUKHI LETTER OO
U+0A14	?	214	GURMUKHI LETTER AU
U+0A15	?	83,472	GURMUKHI LETTER KA
U+0A16	?	24,331	GURMUKHI LETTER KHA
U+0A17	?	39,518	GURMUKHI LETTER GA
U+0A18	?	4,685	GURMUKHI LETTER GHA
U+0A19	?	979	GURMUKHI LETTER NGA
U+0A1A	?	30,488	GURMUKHI LETTER CA
U+0A1B	?	5,158	GURMUKHI LETTER CHA
U+0A1C	?	49,940	GURMUKHI LETTER JA
U+0A1D	?	3,192	GURMUKHI LETTER JHA
U+0A1E	?	16	GURMUKHI LETTER NYA
U+0A1F	?	9,962	GURMUKHI LETTER TTA
U+0A20	?	5,399	GURMUKHI LETTER TTHA
U+0A21	?	12,680	GURMUKHI LETTER DDA
U+0A22	?	2,931	GURMUKHI LETTER DDHA
U+0A23	?	34,257	GURMUKHI LETTER NNA
U+0A24	?	122,402	GURMUKHI LETTER TA
U+0A25	?	11,514	GURMUKHI LETTER THA
U+0A26	?	119,353	GURMUKHI LETTER DA
U+0A27	?	10,408	GURMUKHI LETTER DHA
U+0A28	?	126,139	GURMUKHI LETTER NA
U+0A2A	?	55,194	GURMUKHI LETTER PA
U+0A2B	?	6,338	GURMUKHI LETTER PHA
U+0A2C	?	30,091	GURMUKHI LETTER BA
U+0A2D	?	15,436	GURMUKHI LETTER BHA
U+0A2E	?	63,862	GURMUKHI LETTER MA
U+0A2F	?	18,243	GURMUKHI LETTER YA
U+0A30	?	135,295	GURMUKHI LETTER RA
U+0A32	?	74,498	GURMUKHI LETTER LA
U+0A33	?	2	GURMUKHI LETTER LLA
U+0A35	?	67,823	GURMUKHI LETTER VA
U+0A36	?	16,819	GURMUKHI LETTER SHA
U+0A38	?	94,018	GURMUKHI LETTER SA
U+0A39	?	161,552	GURMUKHI LETTER HA
U+0A3C	?	3,830	GURMUKHI SIGN NUKTA
U+0A3E	?	247,450	GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN AA
U+0A3F	?	108,015	GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN I
U+0A40	?	107,610	GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN II
U+0A41	?	52,088	GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN U
U+0A42	?	50,239	GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN UU
U+0A47	?	204,430	GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN EE
U+0A48	?	35,183	GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN AI
U+0A4B	?	73,561	GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN OO
U+0A4C	?	4,272	GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0A4D	?	18,975	GURMUKHI SIGN VIRAMA
U+0A59	?	586	GURMUKHI LETTER KHHA
U+0A5A	?	47	GURMUKHI LETTER GHHA
U+0A5B	?	4,378	GURMUKHI LETTER ZA
U+0A5C	?	18,032	GURMUKHI LETTER RRA
U+0A5E	?	2,159	GURMUKHI LETTER FA
U+0A6C	?	3	GURMUKHI DIGIT SIX
U+0A70	?	54,614	GURMUKHI TIPPI
U+0A71	?	84,383	GURMUKHI ADDAK
U+200D	?	1	ZERO WIDTH JOINER
U+2018	?	29	LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
U+2019	?	28	RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
U+201C	?	541	LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK
U+201D	?	477	RIGHT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK





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From baiju.m.mail at gmail.com  Sun Dec 25 10:10:57 2016
From: baiju.m.mail at gmail.com (Baiju M)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 22:40:57 +0530
Subject: [sword-devel] Punjabi Bible 1945
In-Reply-To: <1482684641604-4656578.post@n4.nabble.com>
References: <CAN8ZCbyf1G0YjrBY-HMo_hJbuKwccbh8_aVn1L0TeZHYy7+9Qw@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear David,

Thanks for all your feedback! I need to find somebody else to fix
these issues. I am not familiar with Panjabi language.


On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 10:20 PM, David Haslam <dfhmch at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Dear Baiju,
>
> The left square bracket in Joshua 5:15 is the only one in the project.
> I suspect it is spurious. Probably a typo!
>
> Below is a character frequency analysis for the concatenated USFM file for
> the whole work.
> Upon request, I can supply this as a tab delimited text file.
>
> Any codepoint that occurs only once (or even just in single figures) is
> suspect.
>
> There may be other things herein that merit your team's detailed attention.
> e.g. Mismatched counts for left and right parentheses & left and right
> quotation marks, etc.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
> Code point      Character       Count   Character Name
> U+0009  \t      9       <control>
> U+0020          860,169 SPACE
> U+0021  !       2,995   EXCLAMATION MARK
> U+0022  "       306     QUOTATION MARK
> U+0027  '       95      APOSTROPHE
> U+0028  (       42      LEFT PARENTHESIS
> U+0029  )       44      RIGHT PARENTHESIS
> U+002A  *       76      ASTERISK
> U+002C  ,       29,419  COMMA
> U+002D  -       1,578   HYPHEN-MINUS
> U+002E  .       60      FULL STOP
> U+002F  /       1       SOLIDUS
> U+0030  0       2,753   DIGIT ZERO
> U+0031  1       14,329  DIGIT ONE
> U+0032  2       10,019  DIGIT TWO
> U+0033  3       6,361   DIGIT THREE
> U+0034  4       4,619   DIGIT FOUR
> U+0035  5       3,748   DIGIT FIVE
> U+0036  6       3,349   DIGIT SIX
> U+0037  7       3,113   DIGIT SEVEN
> U+0038  8       3,010   DIGIT EIGHT
> U+0039  9       2,804   DIGIT NINE
> U+003A  :       166     COLON
> U+003B  ;       46      SEMICOLON
> U+003F  ?       3,012   QUESTION MARK
> U+0041  A       100     LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A
> U+0042  B       99      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B
> U+0043  C       134     LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C
> U+0044  D       102     LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D
> U+0045  E       30      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E
> U+0046  F       252     LATIN CAPITAL LETTER F
> U+0047  G       8       LATIN CAPITAL LETTER G
> U+0048  H       20      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H
> U+0049  I       51      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I
> U+004A  J       24      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER J
> U+004B  K       7       LATIN CAPITAL LETTER K
> U+004C  L       53      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L
> U+004D  M       16      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER M
> U+004E  N       17      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N
> U+004F  O       57      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O
> U+0050  P       54      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P
> U+0052  R       12      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R
> U+0053  S       58      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S
> U+0054  T       213     LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T
> U+0055  U       75      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U
> U+0056  V       95      LATIN CAPITAL LETTER V
> U+0058  X       2       LATIN CAPITAL LETTER X
> U+005A  Z       6       LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Z
> U+005B  [       1       LEFT SQUARE BRACKET
> U+005C  \       34,700  REVERSE SOLIDUS
> U+005F  _       8       LOW LINE
> U+0060  `       1       GRAVE ACCENT
> U+0061  a       198     LATIN SMALL LETTER A
> U+0062  b       175     LATIN SMALL LETTER B
> U+0063  c       1,310   LATIN SMALL LETTER C
> U+0064  d       226     LATIN SMALL LETTER D
> U+0065  e       747     LATIN SMALL LETTER E
> U+0066  f       40      LATIN SMALL LETTER F
> U+0067  g       138     LATIN SMALL LETTER G
> U+0068  h       147     LATIN SMALL LETTER H
> U+0069  i       756     LATIN SMALL LETTER I
> U+006A  j       39      LATIN SMALL LETTER J
> U+006B  k       45      LATIN SMALL LETTER K
> U+006C  l       146     LATIN SMALL LETTER L
> U+006D  m       368     LATIN SMALL LETTER M
> U+006E  n       356     LATIN SMALL LETTER N
> U+006F  o       434     LATIN SMALL LETTER O
> U+0070  p       1,948   LATIN SMALL LETTER P
> U+0072  r       434     LATIN SMALL LETTER R
> U+0073  s       250     LATIN SMALL LETTER S
> U+0074  t       622     LATIN SMALL LETTER T
> U+0075  u       181     LATIN SMALL LETTER U
> U+0076  v       31,123  LATIN SMALL LETTER V
> U+0077  w       2       LATIN SMALL LETTER W
> U+0079  y       135     LATIN SMALL LETTER Y
> U+007A  z       95      LATIN SMALL LETTER Z
> U+007C  |       26,291  VERTICAL LINE
> U+0964  ?       3,563   DEVANAGARI DANDA
> U+0A01  ?       1       GURMUKHI SIGN ADAK BINDI
> U+0A02  ?       125,280 GURMUKHI SIGN BINDI
> U+0A05  ?       54,785  GURMUKHI LETTER A
> U+0A06  ?       76,893  GURMUKHI LETTER AA
> U+0A07  ?       21,555  GURMUKHI LETTER I
> U+0A08  ?       19,575  GURMUKHI LETTER II
> U+0A09  ?       64,327  GURMUKHI LETTER U
> U+0A0A  ?       2,268   GURMUKHI LETTER UU
> U+0A0F  ?       13,309  GURMUKHI LETTER EE
> U+0A10  ?       1,483   GURMUKHI LETTER AI
> U+0A13  ?       9,587   GURMUKHI LETTER OO
> U+0A14  ?       214     GURMUKHI LETTER AU
> U+0A15  ?       83,472  GURMUKHI LETTER KA
> U+0A16  ?       24,331  GURMUKHI LETTER KHA
> U+0A17  ?       39,518  GURMUKHI LETTER GA
> U+0A18  ?       4,685   GURMUKHI LETTER GHA
> U+0A19  ?       979     GURMUKHI LETTER NGA
> U+0A1A  ?       30,488  GURMUKHI LETTER CA
> U+0A1B  ?       5,158   GURMUKHI LETTER CHA
> U+0A1C  ?       49,940  GURMUKHI LETTER JA
> U+0A1D  ?       3,192   GURMUKHI LETTER JHA
> U+0A1E  ?       16      GURMUKHI LETTER NYA
> U+0A1F  ?       9,962   GURMUKHI LETTER TTA
> U+0A20  ?       5,399   GURMUKHI LETTER TTHA
> U+0A21  ?       12,680  GURMUKHI LETTER DDA
> U+0A22  ?       2,931   GURMUKHI LETTER DDHA
> U+0A23  ?       34,257  GURMUKHI LETTER NNA
> U+0A24  ?       122,402 GURMUKHI LETTER TA
> U+0A25  ?       11,514  GURMUKHI LETTER THA
> U+0A26  ?       119,353 GURMUKHI LETTER DA
> U+0A27  ?       10,408  GURMUKHI LETTER DHA
> U+0A28  ?       126,139 GURMUKHI LETTER NA
> U+0A2A  ?       55,194  GURMUKHI LETTER PA
> U+0A2B  ?       6,338   GURMUKHI LETTER PHA
> U+0A2C  ?       30,091  GURMUKHI LETTER BA
> U+0A2D  ?       15,436  GURMUKHI LETTER BHA
> U+0A2E  ?       63,862  GURMUKHI LETTER MA
> U+0A2F  ?       18,243  GURMUKHI LETTER YA
> U+0A30  ?       135,295 GURMUKHI LETTER RA
> U+0A32  ?       74,498  GURMUKHI LETTER LA
> U+0A33  ?       2       GURMUKHI LETTER LLA
> U+0A35  ?       67,823  GURMUKHI LETTER VA
> U+0A36  ?       16,819  GURMUKHI LETTER SHA
> U+0A38  ?       94,018  GURMUKHI LETTER SA
> U+0A39  ?       161,552 GURMUKHI LETTER HA
> U+0A3C  ?       3,830   GURMUKHI SIGN NUKTA
> U+0A3E  ?       247,450 GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN AA
> U+0A3F  ?       108,015 GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN I
> U+0A40  ?       107,610 GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN II
> U+0A41  ?       52,088  GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN U
> U+0A42  ?       50,239  GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN UU
> U+0A47  ?       204,430 GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN EE
> U+0A48  ?       35,183  GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN AI
> U+0A4B  ?       73,561  GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN OO
> U+0A4C  ?       4,272   GURMUKHI VOWEL SIGN AU
> U+0A4D  ?       18,975  GURMUKHI SIGN VIRAMA
> U+0A59  ?       586     GURMUKHI LETTER KHHA
> U+0A5A  ?       47      GURMUKHI LETTER GHHA
> U+0A5B  ?       4,378   GURMUKHI LETTER ZA
> U+0A5C  ?       18,032  GURMUKHI LETTER RRA
> U+0A5E  ?       2,159   GURMUKHI LETTER FA
> U+0A6C  ?       3       GURMUKHI DIGIT SIX
> U+0A70  ?       54,614  GURMUKHI TIPPI
> U+0A71  ?       84,383  GURMUKHI ADDAK
> U+200D  ?       1       ZERO WIDTH JOINER
> U+2018  ?       29      LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
> U+2019  ?       28      RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
> U+201C  ?       541     LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK
> U+201D  ?       477     RIGHT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK
>
>
>
>
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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Mon Dec 26 02:40:21 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 01:40:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] ZenHub - integrating GitHub into your browser
Message-ID: <1482745221565-4656580.post@n4.nabble.com>

This came to my attention today.

It may be of interest to program developers and text developers.

Currently supports Chrome and Firefox.

https://www.zenhub.com/

HT to Benjamin Varghese for the link.

Best bregards,

David



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From mail at simonbiggs.net  Mon Dec 26 03:32:55 2016
From: mail at simonbiggs.net (Simon Biggs)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:32:55 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] CORS API
Message-ID: <CAALqB0Dd69aUD-cNU-9_5o1mOuSrMiKJKn===PG2btUz2XgTSg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I was hoping to help set up a CORS API for transfer of crosswire resources
to web apps. My hope was to be able to make something simple, probably
written in Python with the Tornado module and using the sword SWIG
bindings.

My thought is the API would simply send whole resources, such as a whole
Bible translation. Any webapp interfacing with the API would likely
download the resources once per user and store them within the browser's
IndexedDB.

I'm not sure what is the best format to use for the transmitted content.
The easiest option might be using something like the plain text OSIS
format. From my limited exposure to this project that would mean minimal
work on the server end required to make as many resources as possible able
to be sent this way. What to then do with the OSIS file and how to store it
in the IndexedDB would be up to the client side programmer.

What are your thoughts? Does anyone have any recommendations for
improvement? If I made something like this, is this something that
crosswire would be willing to have running on their server for resource
distribution?

Thank you,
Simon
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From scribe at crosswire.org  Tue Dec 27 11:47:43 2016
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 11:47:43 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] CORS API
In-Reply-To: <CAALqB0Dd69aUD-cNU-9_5o1mOuSrMiKJKn===PG2btUz2XgTSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAALqB0Dd69aUD-cNU-9_5o1mOuSrMiKJKn===PG2btUz2XgTSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45b5dc8b-c8bc-33c6-6ba8-c5c1b6d31a0b@crosswire.org>

Hi Simon,

Thanks for your ideas.  I'm interested to hear a little about the use 
cases you are targeting.  Are you trying to server offline browser users 
in general, or do you have a specific case you have in mind?

The background here is that we typically don't encourage transferring 
data from our format to another.  Though we've accumulated a large 
library of works and that, in itself, is useful to other engineer, we 
don't curate any of these individual modules and simply have done the 
work to track down each authoritative source, get permission for 
distribution and use as openly as can be obtained from their curator, 
and then to convert their primary data source into our module format.  
This doesn't pass along any rights for use to other projects outside 
those of CrossWire, and also doesn't provide a primary source for any of 
this material-- which an lead to multiplied data conversion issues when 
moving on to a second jump from the primary source.

We have a C++ engine which runs on most any device you might wish to 
support (including web server)-- with many bindings for most popular 
scripting languages, and also a native Java engine as well.  Both of 
these can be used to discover, install, and access our entire library, 
if you'd like to start a new application in our community or contribute 
to an existing solution.

Two web applications which use our engines and might interest you are:

http://crosswire.org/study

http://stepbible.org

Hope this helps.  Welcome!  Looking forward to sharing in service together,

Troy



On 12/26/2016 03:32 AM, Simon Biggs wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was hoping to help set up a CORS API for transfer of crosswire 
> resources to web apps. My hope was to be able to make something 
> simple, probably written in Python with the Tornado module and using 
> the sword SWIG bindings.
>
> My thought is the API would simply send whole resources, such as a 
> whole Bible translation. Any webapp interfacing with the API would 
> likely download the resources once per user and store them within the 
> browser's IndexedDB.
>
> I'm not sure what is the best format to use for the transmitted 
> content. The easiest option might be using something like the plain 
> text OSIS format. From my limited exposure to this project that would 
> mean minimal work on the server end required to make as many resources 
> as possible able to be sent this way. What to then do with the OSIS 
> file and how to store it in the IndexedDB would be up to the client 
> side programmer.
>
> What are your thoughts? Does anyone have any recommendations for 
> improvement? If I made something like this, is this something that 
> crosswire would be willing to have running on their server for 
> resource distribution?
>
> Thank you,
> Simon
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From mail at simonbiggs.net  Wed Dec 28 01:59:39 2016
From: mail at simonbiggs.net (Simon Biggs)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:59:39 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] CORS API
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1482865202.19236.sword-devel@crosswire.org>
References: <mailman.0.1482865202.19236.sword-devel@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <CAALqB0AAZrjamdRzHr+aGCNmUj-hZ05GFUpOUu2j9VW7UHygSA@mail.gmail.com>

I want to be able to make a progressive web app using Angular. I want it to
be able to download the resources from crosswire and store them with
IndexedDB. The advantage of this is nothing needs to be installed on the
users machine, everything I write immediately works on every operating
system. And because of IndexedDB all Bible resources can be accessed
offline. Because of the progressive webapp infrastructure the website
itself will also be able to be accessed offline.

If I was to place a server between the webapp and the user the user would
not be able to download the resources offline. That would surmount to
redistribution by myself. However, if the client webapp directly downloads
from crosswire via a REST API then that fulfills your distribution
agreements.


On Wed, 28 Dec 2016, 6:06 AM <sword-devel-request at crosswire.org> wrote:

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> To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 11:47:43 -0700
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] CORS API
>
> Hi Simon,
>
> Thanks for your ideas.  I'm interested to hear a little about the use
> cases you are targeting.  Are you trying to server offline browser users in
> general, or do you have a specific case you have in mind?
>
> The background here is that we typically don't encourage transferring data
> from our format to another.  Though we've accumulated a large library of
> works and that, in itself, is useful to other engineer, we don't curate any
> of these individual modules and simply have done the work to track down
> each authoritative source, get permission for distribution and use as
> openly as can be obtained from their curator, and then to convert their
> primary data source into our module format.  This doesn't pass along any
> rights for use to other projects outside those of CrossWire, and also
> doesn't provide a primary source for any of this material-- which an lead
> to multiplied data conversion issues when moving on to a second jump from
> the primary source.
>
> We have a C++ engine which runs on most any device you might wish to
> support (including web server)-- with many bindings for most popular
> scripting languages, and also a native Java engine as well.  Both of these
> can be used to discover, install, and access our entire library, if you'd
> like to start a new application in our community or contribute to an
> existing solution.
>
> Two web applications which use our engines and might interest you are:
>
> http://crosswire.org/study
>
> http://stepbible.org
>
> Hope this helps.  Welcome!  Looking forward to sharing in service together,
>
> Troy
>
>
>
> On 12/26/2016 03:32 AM, Simon Biggs wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was hoping to help set up a CORS API for transfer of crosswire resources
> to web apps. My hope was to be able to make something simple, probably
> written in Python with the Tornado module and using the sword SWIG
> bindings.
>
> My thought is the API would simply send whole resources, such as a whole
> Bible translation. Any webapp interfacing with the API would likely
> download the resources once per user and store them within the browser's
> IndexedDB.
>
> I'm not sure what is the best format to use for the transmitted content.
> The easiest option might be using something like the plain text OSIS
> format. From my limited exposure to this project that would mean minimal
> work on the server end required to make as many resources as possible able
> to be sent this way. What to then do with the OSIS file and how to store it
> in the IndexedDB would be up to the client side programmer.
>
> What are your thoughts? Does anyone have any recommendations for
> improvement? If I made something like this, is this something that
> crosswire would be willing to have running on their server for resource
> distribution?
>
> Thank you,
> Simon
>
>
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From mjdenham at gmail.com  Wed Dec 28 10:47:06 2016
From: mjdenham at gmail.com (Martin Denham)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:47:06 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Is the main Crosswire web site down?
Message-ID: <CAJ30_OPydQhyyMQQkDWdkHAkdYST4PK9ov4Z5uTz8ZXOBJ7VZA@mail.gmail.com>

I can't connect to http://www.crosswire.org/ and users can't download any
modules.

Regards
Martin
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From scribe at crosswire.org  Wed Dec 28 10:54:07 2016
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:54:07 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Is the main Crosswire web site down?
In-Reply-To: <CAJ30_OPydQhyyMQQkDWdkHAkdYST4PK9ov4Z5uTz8ZXOBJ7VZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ30_OPydQhyyMQQkDWdkHAkdYST4PK9ov4Z5uTz8ZXOBJ7VZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4db04192-b85e-6d12-b898-2f428106b3a4@crosswire.org>

Hi Martin,

Our server is changing colocation providers at the end of this year 
(today and tomorrow).  We planned to have minimal downtown tomorrow 
evening, but issues with the domain transfer to a new registrar started 
today.  That should be resolved, but the bottom line is that the server 
will be intermittently available today and tomorrow but should be stable 
again by Friday.  We'll try to keep the downtime to a minimum but the 
server is physically moving locations so there will be some travel time 
in there.

Troy




On 12/28/2016 10:47 AM, Martin Denham wrote:
> I can't connect to http://www.crosswire.org/ and users can't download 
> any modules.
>
> Regards
> Martin
>
>
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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Wed Dec 28 06:12:24 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 05:12:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] PEG parser for USFM
In-Reply-To: <1451401576683-4655569.post@n4.nabble.com>
References: <CAN8ZCbzdPbtZKyQht43E4AHrZEMRCgvqWdzvOFh4zfMyu33Weg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BC12AD90-5904-43EF-BFE9-F7CF3383A442@ryanhiebert.com>
	<CAN8ZCbyF5U9AExeSiKh-9_P1Sh+yoDHt0Jc8sk4Poopgqf8E8Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<1451387506320-4655565.post@n4.nabble.com>
	<trinity-6b453461-30f6-4749-8de0-7962030f0367-1451393282603@3capp-gmx-bs59>
	<1451401576683-4655569.post@n4.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1482930744106-4656584.post@n4.nabble.com>

Further to the thread late in 2015, in which I mentioned my User Defined
Language file for Notepad++

I just put my USFM.xml file on GitHub.

https://github.com/DavidHaslam/USFM

I'm not promising to develop it further, but at least others can now access
it.

David



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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Wed Dec 28 07:42:58 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 06:42:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] Notepad++ User Defined Language CONF
In-Reply-To: <1452962340785-4655824.post@n4.nabble.com>
References: <1452962340785-4655824.post@n4.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1482936178586-4656585.post@n4.nabble.com>

Today I made a github repository for this item.

https://github.com/DavidHaslam/CONF

The side effects can be peculiar, but it can be useful to detect real errors
in module .conf files.

Have fun if you make use of it. 

David




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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Wed Dec 28 08:58:39 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:58:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] Punjabi Bible 1945
In-Reply-To: <CAN8ZCbxRJJr6vGoYvjHmsxjTEjPmJ1g8qAL-SdsjAjkqcT=YMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN8ZCbyf1G0YjrBY-HMo_hJbuKwccbh8_aVn1L0TeZHYy7+9Qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1482588782922-4656573.post@n4.nabble.com>
	<1482684641604-4656578.post@n4.nabble.com>
	<CAN8ZCbxRJJr6vGoYvjHmsxjTEjPmJ1g8qAL-SdsjAjkqcT=YMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1482940719483-4656587.post@n4.nabble.com>

FIO. I've reported a lot more issues since, all of which ought to be fixed
before we make the next step towards module submission.

One interesting aspect of the project is how Unicode Normalization effects
the Gurmukhi script.

For further details, see
https://github.com/tfbf/punjabi_bible_1945/issues/44

Best regards,

David



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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Wed Dec 28 02:05:38 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 01:05:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] CrossWire server down?
Message-ID: <1482915938158-4656583.post@n4.nabble.com>

Problem loading page http://crosswire.org/

It was OK yesterday, I think.

David



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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Wed Dec 28 09:29:53 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:29:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] CrossWire server down?
In-Reply-To: <1482915938158-4656583.post@n4.nabble.com>
References: <1482915938158-4656583.post@n4.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1482942593690-4656588.post@n4.nabble.com>

News via email from Troy....

The server is soon being relocated.

I've posted a notice on the CrossWire facebook page.

As this mailing list depends on the server being active, some of you may not
see this reply until it's up and running again.

David



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From scribe at crosswire.org  Thu Dec 29 09:37:16 2016
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:37:16 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Server migration
Message-ID: <8D52DBA0-73C2-4C67-9F33-5428B507DE30@crosswire.org>

We're in the process of moving our hardware now. If you want to follow any progress, you should be able to find us on our IRC channel: irc.freenode.net #sword
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From scribe at crosswire.org  Fri Dec 30 11:06:02 2016
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:06:02 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Server migration
In-Reply-To: <8D52DBA0-73C2-4C67-9F33-5428B507DE30@crosswire.org>
References: <8D52DBA0-73C2-4C67-9F33-5428B507DE30@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <8ffbccd1-ce0b-2797-976b-75ffe419f009@crosswire.org>

My apologies for the longer downtime than expected.  We should be back 
up and running now.


On 12/29/2016 09:37 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> We're in the process of moving our hardware now. If you want to follow 
> any progress, you should be able to find us on our IRC channel: 
> irc.freenode.net <http://irc.freenode.net> #sword
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From cmahte at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 11:41:21 2016
From: cmahte at gmail.com (Michael H)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:41:21 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Server migration
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Hooray Troy!
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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Fri Dec 30 15:26:16 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:26:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] Server migration
In-Reply-To: <8ffbccd1-ce0b-2797-976b-75ffe419f009@crosswire.org>
References: <8D52DBA0-73C2-4C67-9F33-5428B507DE30@crosswire.org>
	<8ffbccd1-ce0b-2797-976b-75ffe419f009@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <1483136776553-4656594.post@n4.nabble.com>

Is the mailer fully working yet?

Just sent myself a test message, and the redirect hasn't yet been received.

David



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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Sat Dec 31 05:12:46 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 04:12:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] USFM 3.0 is on its way....
Message-ID: <1483186366574-4656595.post@n4.nabble.com>

Our module tools are currently geared to coping with USFM 2.4

USFM 3.0 is on its way... 
See https://github.com/ubsicap/usfm

It will introduce some new markers, as well as some marker revisions.
There will also be some changes to syntax and features.
See http://ubsicap.github.io/usfm/about/releasenotes.html#about-release-3-0

See also
https://crosswire.org/wiki/Converting_SFM_Bibles_to_OSIS#Introduction
that I have just updated

Programmers involved in maintaining and developing the USFM analysis and
conversion tools, please take note. 

Best regards,

David





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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Sat Dec 31 07:08:22 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 06:08:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] Server migration
In-Reply-To: <1483136776553-4656594.post@n4.nabble.com>
References: <8D52DBA0-73C2-4C67-9F33-5428B507DE30@crosswire.org>
	<8ffbccd1-ce0b-2797-976b-75ffe419f009@crosswire.org>
	<1483136776553-4656594.post@n4.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1483193302285-4656596.post@n4.nabble.com>

Today, I have received three separate copies of the single test message that
I sent to my CrossWire email address.

I think there's something amiss with the redirect process!

David



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From dfhmch at googlemail.com  Sat Dec 31 08:10:22 2016
From: dfhmch at googlemail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 07:10:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [sword-devel] The Unlicense
Message-ID: <1483197022411-4656597.post@n4.nabble.com>

Would there be any value in adding the Unlicense as one of the permitted
values in module conf files for the DistributionLicense ?

For details see http://unlicense.org/

Best regards,

David



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From dmsmith at crosswire.org  Sat Dec 31 16:01:37 2016
From: dmsmith at crosswire.org (DM Smith)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:01:37 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] The Unlicense
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References: <1483197022411-4656597.post@n4.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <77E8B13F-32ED-4647-B0D7-A1E0CBC72E4A@crosswire.org>



Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;)

> On Dec 31, 2016, at 10:10 AM, David Haslam <dfhmch at googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> Would there be any value in adding the Unlicense as one of the permitted
> values in module conf files for the DistributionLicense ?
> 
> For details see http://unlicense.org/
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
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From dmsmith at crosswire.org  Sat Dec 31 19:30:58 2016
From: dmsmith at crosswire.org (DM Smith)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:30:58 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] The Unlicense
In-Reply-To: <77E8B13F-32ED-4647-B0D7-A1E0CBC72E4A@crosswire.org>
References: <1483197022411-4656597.post@n4.nabble.com>
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Message-ID: <40B8B549-9A73-4617-AC5B-6BCB03229D33@crosswire.org>

Meant to say: let's wait until a provider wants to use it. 

In Him,
DM 

> On Dec 31, 2016, at 6:01 PM, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;)
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2016, at 10:10 AM, David Haslam <dfhmch at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Would there be any value in adding the Unlicense as one of the permitted
>> values in module conf files for the DistributionLicense ?
>> 
>> For details see http://unlicense.org/
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> 
>> 
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