[sword-devel] I implore you...

Sun Jun 9 23:26:07 MST 2013

I haven't touched c code for a while but can't you simply use a grep to
exclude the stuff you're not interested in?
On 9 Jun 2013 22:55, "Jaak Ristioja" <jaak at ristioja.ee> wrote:

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> On 09.06.2013 23:21, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> > I don't think other developers are getting ignored.  Please be
> > specific.  Just because I don't accept a patch doesn't mean a
> > developer is getting ignored.
> >
> > In fact, many times trying to make this release, when people
> > complain that we need something fixed for this release, I ask for a
> > simple testsuite addition to show the problem and desired result,
> > and don't get a response.
> >
> > I don't believe the problem is as you think it is Jaak.  Many
> > people whine about this or that. Not all whine for things to go in
> > the same direction.
> >
> > Everyone whines for a release but not everyone is willing to help
> > submit tests and then fixes for those tests.
> >
> > You stated that you would get involved to help, but you only
> > submit things for which I previously told you I wasn't interested
> > in accepting (worrying about pedantic warnings whose changes often
> > make the code less readable and do nothing to improve any of the
> > real problems for the end user.  Though I do appreciate a few of
> > the warning fixes you submitted, a few being actual bug fixed too
> > (thank you)-- I'm just ranting right now.)
>
> As a BibleTime developer, I want to available tools (-Wall, -Wextra,
> cppcheck, etc) to fix any errors in my code. Due to the Sword header
> files which generate a lot of warnings this task is VERY inconvenient.
> For example, when I compile the whole of BibleTime with GCC, I get 549
> warnings from Sword headers (mostly for unused arguments) - how am I
> supposed to find the warnings relevant for BibleTime? This alone often
> makes it a pain to develop BibleTime and gives me enough reason to
> want to fork Sword.
>
> Turning on and fixing pedantic warnings will help find real bugs.
> FACT! Forcing developers to work blindfolded will not help anyone.
>
> The same tools can be used to find bugs in Sword code, and SHOULD
> regularly be used for this purpose to ensure code quality. As is
> obvious these are currently NOT BEING USED by Sword developers.
> However, when things eventually break, users complain to the BibleTime
> project. Hence, it is also in the interests of front-ends to ensure
> that the code of Sword is of good quality. Again - if Sword won't work
> to ensure this and wont let us in to fix things, we have another
> reason to fork.
>
> This again leads us to the issue of attracting new developers to
> Sword. I don't want to write on this more than necessary to provide a
> small argument for my conclusion. Afaik the current situation isn't
> working well. Biggest obstacles for me personally include working
> blindfolded, submitting patches by e-mail and not getting enough
> feedback for (ignored) patches and other emails.
>
> To conclude - maybe its just me, but altogether I really feel it were
> easier to maintain a parallel fork (at minimal to provide set of
> patches) than to waste my time writing long letters trying to make
> this relationship work in its current form. I accept whatever path the
> Sword project takes, but if it's not enough for the needs of BibleTime
> and our devs, we will make our own choices as well.
>
>
> Blessings,
> Jaak
> The BibleTime team
>
>
> PS: I apologize if this late-night response is incomprehensible.
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