[sword-devel] Websites (was: Video tutorials)

Patrick Zimmermann patrick at zakweb.de
Sat May 12 00:24:51 MST 2012


is this offer of creating the technical backend of a new site still valid?

Would you create a CMS from ground up in java/jsp/...? Most of the website is 
static stuff, so some CMS like functionality would be great. How would you 
build up the site? What deliveries do you need from the structural / design 


Patrick Zimmermann

On Tuesday 03 April 2012 14:19:49 Greg Hellings wrote:
> I lack any artistic or design ability whatsoever. However, as a
> full-time web developer and now even being a full-time Java web
> developer (as the site is currently written in) I am willing to do the
> technical implementation of a site if someone wants to whip up a
> wireframe and site tree structure that people agree on.
> I wish any such adventurous person the best of luck with the last
> phrase in the preceding sentence.
> --Greg
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> 
> > To second what Greg said and to defend the last person who attempted to
> > meet all audiences with our website (not me), if you hit:
> > 
> > http://crosswire.org
> > 
> > Click Software
> > Click Windows
> > 
> > You get a list software for Windows.
> > 
> > We can't necessarily have a "Download Now" button as most projects have
> > chosen not to host their development work on CrossWire's server and I
> > won't
> > believe they would (nor blame them for not doing so) keep updated Windows
> > and Mac packages in some central CrossWire download facility. We've had
> > hard enough time getting news reports from everyone.  Other OSs don't use
> > a 'download now' from a website concept, but get their software from a
> > package manager (Android, iOS, Redhat, Ubuntu, etc.)
> > 
> > I'm not amiss to giving other Windows frontends more prominence, but it's
> > hard to decide how: BPBible, Bible Desktop, Bibletime, Xiphos, XulSWORD
> > (listed ASCIIbetically) all run fine on Windows and complaining that
> > everyone only downloads BibleCS because it is listed first would translate
> > to a valid complaint for any 2-n listed project.
> > 
> > I too am generally frustrated with both our wiki and our main website. The
> > wiki has so much misinformation and bad examples and is anything but
> > concise, and the main website is generally unattractive and doesn't have
> > the latest bits of useful information which are on the wiki.
> > 
> > I'm not blaming anyone, as Greg has said, no one wants this.  I very
> > seldom
> > take the time to read the wiki with the intent to fix things.  I end up
> > finding them when I intend to refer someone to the wiki and read the
> > information I'm about to link to.  Some who edit the wiki don't have the
> > history or expertise.  Many who have the history or expertise don't have
> > time to edit the wiki.  It's a vicious circle.  Everyone has good
> > intentions.
> > 
> > I'm open for suggestions, but every couple years we go through this
> > iteration of a wave of frustration about our websites and someone steps up
> > and revamps some things, and no one is happy and we move on for another
> > couple years.
> > 
> > Troy
> > 
> > On 04/03/2012 07:22 PM, Barry Drake wrote:
> >> On 03/04/12 17:58, Matěj Cepl wrote:
> >>> I am not a Windows user, so just a question ... what's better Xiphos
> >>> or Bibletime for Windows? (maybe we should list both as to avoid a
> >>> civil war, if it is point of contest)
> >> 
> >> Both look virtually the same under Windows as under your favourite
> >> Linux. Neither is 'better', it's purely a matter of which one fits the
> >> way the user works. Xiphos fits my work style very well, but until
> >> Xiphos has full av11n support (quite soon now), I am mainly using
> >> Bibletime. I wouldn't say either is better, just different. BibleDesktop
> >> is another good alternative ... I'd really like to see the web-page
> >> encourage the would-be user to try them all and settle for the one that
> >> suits them. Maybe we could list the main features of each. I seem to
> >> remember a wiki some years ago that attempted to do just that. It will
> >> be well out of date by now.
> >> 
> >> Features like the ability to set up several free-floating windows with
> >> different text in each, is a feature I have used a lot. It only exists
> >> in Xiphos. When preparing a sermon, it is neat to be able to have each
> >> of the readings for the day in places where I can move them about ....
> >> Others with different uses will really want some of the main features of
> >> one of the other programs ... it's horses for courses really.
> >> 
> >> We could also stress the fact that you only need one collection of
> >> modules for all the installed front-ends.
> >> 
> >> God bless, Barry.
> > 
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