[sword-devel] OSIS example

Daniel Owens dhowens at pmbx.net
Sun Mar 4 16:15:56 MST 2012


That is wonderful news. I have not been updating to the nightly build 
for awhile, so I downloaded the latest, but the test module does not 
display at all. I am not sure what to make of that, but it is a rather 
unorthodox module in that it only has a little bit of content.

Daniel

On 03/04/2012 04:32 PM, DM Smith wrote:
> The next release of Bible Desktop supports/displays book and chapter 
> introductions. It is available now as a nightly build. How well the 
> nightly build works on any given day is possibly broken.
>
> AndBible will probably support it once JSword is released.
>
> -- DM
>
> On Mar 4, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>
>> I did some testing of several of the major front-ends (sorry, I do 
>> not have a Mac or iPhone). I posted the results at 
>> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles/BSPExample#Level_of_Support_by_Front-ends. 
>>
>>
>> Overall feature support is strongest in BPBible, followed by 
>> BibleTime and Xiphos tied for second. Then comes BibleCS, 
>> BibleDesktop, and AndBible.
>>
>> That can partly be explained by the fact that BibleDesktop and 
>> AndBible do not display book introductions (that is a reasonable 
>> choice for AndBible). However, both support parallel titles (for 
>> synoptic passages in the Gospels) and canonical psalm titles (as does 
>> BPBible). But BibleTime, Xiphos, and BibleCS simply do not display 
>> the text of Canonical psalm titles. That is a severe bug.
>>
>> As a novice module creator several years ago, this diversity almost 
>> drove me crazy. I guess now at least module creators can know what 
>> features are likely to work well, but it would be nice if front-ends 
>> worked on supporting some of these features, even if the text is 
>> passed through as plain text, such as canonical psalm titles. Nothing 
>> like that should be omitted, even if the display is not anything 
>> special.
>>
>> One last note, variants do not work correctly in any front-end, which 
>> tells me the markup is not right. If anyone can provide a correction 
>> to the markup, please let me know.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On 03/04/2012 01:18 PM, Patrick Zimmermann wrote:
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> this is great news. Thank you.
>>>
>>> If the rendering produced by xiphos or bibletime is at least some sort of
>>> acceptable I'll change the module I'm developing at the moment to use the
>>> syntax. Mostly additions, removals and alternatives are affected.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 4. March 2012 01:59:15 Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>> Based on varied sources, including Patrick's helpful example OSIS Bible,
>>>> I put together an example OSIS "Bible" that validates and is consistent
>>>> with the wiki page on OSIS Bibles (
>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles). The text itself is mostly
>>>> KJV text, with a little Hebrew to illustrate more than what the KJV can
>>>> by itself. I chose to use the BSP structure because the KJV illustrates
>>>> the BCV structure well already, and I have no idea idea how to deal with
>>>> paragraphs and poetry in the BCV structure.
>>>>
>>>> You can find the example file and the following list of features at
>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles/BSPExample:
>>>>
>>>> - BookGroup and section titles, including parallel passages:<title>
>>>> - Book introduction
>>>> - List:<list>,<item>
>>>> - Table:<table>,<row>,<cell>
>>>> - Bold and italic text:<hi>
>>>> - Strong's numbers, lemma, and morphology:<w>, @lemma, @morph
>>>> - Notes, including study notes and cross-references:<note>,<reference>
>>>> - Marked additions:<transChange>
>>>> - Canonical title (Psalms):<title type="psalm" canonical="true">
>>>> - Poetry markup:<lg>,<l>
>>>> - Divine Name:<seg>,<divineName>
>>>> - Variants:<seg type="x-variant" subType="x-1">
>>>> - Abbreviations:<abbr>
>>>>
>>>> I compiled and tested the module, and I will send a separate email when
>>>> I have a chance to record the results systematically. Suffice it to say,
>>>> no one front-end supports all of the markup well, and some features
>>>> (such as variants and tables) are conspicuously poorly supported. Since
>>>> it is not a complete text of the KJV, some odd display issues should be
>>>> ignored, but most front-ends displayed the "New Testament" title at the
>>>> bottom of Psalm 3. It would be lovely if front-end developers would see
>>>> how their front-end handles it (or doesn't). I can send a compiled
>>>> module to those who are interested.
>>>>
>>>> Feedback is welcome. If I have missed something or used less-than-ideal
>>>> markup, please let me know, and we can change it.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
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