[sword-devel] Hyphens in book names

[Chris Little]

These are completely unrelated. You're talking about OSIS identifiers, 
which are non-linguistic data, which is obviously unlocalizable. Robert 
is talking about book name localization.

--Chris


On 9/29/10 2:47 PM, Weston Ruter wrote:
> Is this limitation in SWORD due to the OSIS requirement that book names
> not have hyphens? OSIS defines that a book (first segment) in an osisID
> must match ((\p{L}|\p{N}|_|(\\[^\s]))+). This means that a book must
> contain only letters or numbers or underscores... or it may contain
> another character (except spaces) if it is escaped with a backslash. So
> according to OSIS, you could have a book name "First\-Corinthians".
> Sadly, spaces aren't allowed even if they are escaped due to an XML
> limitation apparently.
>
> So does SWORD not support escaping in osisIDs?
>
> BTW, we need to work toward OSIS 3.0.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com
> <mailto:greg.hellings at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     OP was not talking about a transliteration from the sounds of his
>     email, but rather the original language where the hyphen is a letter.
>
>     You are equivalently proposing an English speaker to not use the
>     letter s in the Bible names list. It might be comprehensible but it
>     would be horrible usability and I probably wouldn't take such
>     software seriously!
>
>     Perhaps allowing each locale to define its own numerals and
>     hyphen-like character would be a good solution?
>
>     On Sep 29, 2010 4:08 PM, "Daniel Owens" <dhowens at pmbx.net
>     <mailto:dhowens at pmbx.net>> wrote:
>      >
>      > On 09/29/2010 03:55 PM, Robert Hunt wrote:
>      >> New Zealand.
>      >>
>      >> Hello all,
>      >>
>      >> I am spending today studying the documentation on the Crosswire
>      >> Sword wiki so I'm likely to have a few questions. Please let me
>     know
>      >> if this is not the right forum to ask questions.
>      >>
>      >> I see in http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:SWORD that
>      >> localised book names are not allowed hyphens in them (because the
>      >> hyphen is used for verse ranges). In the Philippine language
>     that we
>      >> worked with as Bible translators, the hyphen is a letter in the
>      >> alphabet and appears in several book names!
>      >>
>      >> Is this still a current limitation? If so, what is the suggested
>      >> work-around.
>      >>
>      >> Thanks,
>      >> Robert.
>      >>
>      > This problem came up with Vietnamese, and I was just told to drop
>     the
>      > hyphens. The result was not ideal, but in the end it is still
>      > comprehensible in Vietnamese. I think the hyphen was needed because
>      > Vietnamese is monosyllabic, but more recent "transliterations" of
>      > foreign names have simply dropped the hyphens. Would the names
>     still be
>      > comprehensible without the hyphen?
>      >
>      > Daniel
>      >
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