[sword-devel] Remote Repositories

Greg Hellings greg.hellings at gmail.com
Tue Dec 28 22:31:13 MST 2010


Why does the News.txt need to have a format we talk about? There are already
perfectly good definitions for news lists and feeds already around. See RSS,
Atom and related technologies.

--Greg
On Dec 28, 2010 11:25 PM, "Troy A. Griffitts" <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
> Thanks for the input Jonathan,
>
> On 12/28/2010 09:57 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote:
>> <scribe at crosswire.org <mailto:scribe at crosswire.org>> wrote:
>> UnlockURL=
>
>> This makes sense. If it were standardised we might put it in for
>> BPBible 0.5, but I wouldn't guarantee it at this stage.
>
> Thanks!
>
>> Is this something that could get out of date? A publisher changes their
>> URL schema and suddenly that link no longer works?
>
> Well, this will probably be used at install time, so hopefully the user
> is attempting to remote install the latest version of the module from
> the publisher's own remote repository which should have an up-to-date
> URL... but of course, I wouldn't put it past someone to forget to update
> the entry in the .conf file.
>
>
>> 2) Current Events: I'd like to have a:
>>
>> NEWS.txt
>>
>
> Well, a general comment which might have bearing on your thoughts below.
> This item was spawned by a publisher stating that they would like to
> "have a chance to interact with" users downloading modules from the
> publisher's repository.
>
> This was my first thought to give them a basic mechanism to do such. I
> called it "NEWS.txt" incidentally, as my best guess at what they'd like
> to say when they 'interacted' with users. I could be off on my
> assumptions, and obviously the repository maintainer could put whatever
> they wanted in there-- not just news. Maybe, as you say, simply a
> repository description, or "Visit us at: http://..." or whatever.
>
> Formatting is another issue you bring up which, if we decide to do this,
> we certainly do need to resolve. I'm not inclined to open up the issue
> of moving .conf entries from basicRTF+<a href...> markup right now, so
> it would probably stay in line with this lame legacy markup for now.
> Just as a summary to this topic, I understand we probably need to
> advance to some HTML markup for the .conf About section, but it requires
> an orchestrated switch, and frankly, I'm ok with having a very limited
> set of tags (I think we support italic, bold, center, paragraph break,
> and <a href...>) in our About section. It makes it easy for a variety
> of display methods on a variety of devices. And it really should just
> simply be an "About".
>
> Any more thoughts?
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>> Several thoughts on this:
>> 1. Is this the most appropriate place to display it?
>> 2. Will it be kept up to date? (I get frustrated by websites, etc. that
>> have news older than a year or two old, and are either no longer doing
>> anything or have given up telling me new things).
>> 3. Is it duplicating information shown elsewhere? Does it mean just
>> another thing for publishers to remember to keep up to date?
>> 4. What degree of formatting will be needed/wanted in this news?
>>
>> I would be inclined to suggest the following instead:
>> 1. Module repositories have some kind of a description or about
>> section. This states the purpose of repository, etc., and is hopefully
>> much less likely to change or be out of date.
>> 2. Module repositories can have a URL to the main site for that module
>> repository. This could be the main page of the publisher or a special
>> page for the SWORD repository or whatever else the publisher chooses.
>> If they want to have news I would probably expect it more to be on a
>> feed on a webpage somewhere than in InstallMgr. This also means those
>> who come across it who are not using SWORD get the same information, and
>> there are no compromises to force-fit the news to what frontends will
>> support.
>>
>> You could support something like this with a fairly standard conf file
>> at the base of the repository. Maybe other fields could be included as
>> well (such as a display name for the repository), but it seems to me a
>> bit arbitrary to have news and nothing else, and I'm not sure that I
>> follow the reasoning.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> Hope everyone has had a very wonderful Christmas filled with family,
>> friends, and love.
>>
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
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