[sword-devel] Flashcards Mobile

Troy A. Griffitts scribe at crosswire.org
Mon Sep 15 14:00:21 MST 2008


Hey Greg, Thanks for your feedback, but I'm pretty ignorant about the 
iPhone.  Could you explain your comments to me and help me understand.

Gregory Hellings wrote:
> On a similar note, you can set the viewport size explicitly to the  
> 320x480 of whatever it is, and that will help dramatically.  
> Additionally, anything smaller than about 18pt font gets hard to read.  
> I could barely read the text without zooming
> 
> On another note I tried Jude and got a blank page of notes on the  
> iPhone.
> 
> Greg
> 
> On Sep 15, 2008, at 15:30, "Troy A. Griffitts" <scribe at crosswire.org>  
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for testing Steve (and nice to hear your voice here!).  When  
>> you
>> clicked on the "Mobile" link, there should have been a link just under
>> that called "Web-Based (iPhone)" or something worded similar.
>>
>> Those 2 links you got to are JAD files for J2ME phones, and since all
>> other phones on the planet have a J2ME runtime environment EXCEPT the
>> iPhone, we had to make a web-based version just for them (iPhone v1;
>> we're hoping to maybe write a native app for the iPhone v2 now that
>> Apple has so graciously provided a development kit).
>>
>>    :)  I think now is a perfect time for you to come visit me here  
>> at Tyndale!
>>
>>        -Troy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steven J. DeRose wrote:
>>> Troy, I tried out crosswire.org/fc/g from my iPhone 3G --
>>>
>>> I got to the "Generating Lessons" page, then clicked on the "Mobile
>>> Lessons" link. That took me to a page headed "Flashcards" with 2
>>> links below ("John 1.1-John.1.51.1" and "John 1.1-John.1.51.2" -- not
>>> sure what the last token is for); but clicking either of those links
>>> just got me "Safari can't download this file".
>>>
>>> Also, at least for the iPhone, I'd recommend adding more vertical
>>> space between links -- especially in portrait mode, they're a little
>>> hard for me to hit accurately. Also pump up the overall size
>>> especially on the very first page (including the textbox to fill in a
>>> reference range) -- too small for my old eyes (I do wish Safari
>>> iPhone had a "use minimum font size" setting like Safari Mac.....).
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:52:58 +0100
>>>> From: "Troy A. Griffitts" <scribe at crosswire.org>
>>>> Subject: [sword-devel] Flashcards Mobile
>>>> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <sword- 
>>>> devel at crosswire.org>
>>>> Message-ID: <48CE76CA.5020706 at crosswire.org>
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>>>>
>>>> Hey guys.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for some cell phone testers, J2ME (most all phones), and
>>>> also someone with an iPhone.
>>>>
>>>> We have recently added a web based dynamic lesson generator for our
>>>> flashcards package.
>>>>
>>>> The way it works, is that the page asks you for a range of  
>>>> Scripture.
>>>> It will then collate and sort all words found in the supplied  
>>>> range and
>>>> create flashcard lessons from these words.
>>>>
>>>> The idea is that when one is having a Greek or Hebrew study group  
>>>> and
>>>> they know they will be reading, say Romans 4-5 next week, they can
>>>> generate vocab for just those chapters and polish their memory  
>>>> during
>>>> the week.  At least that is why I wanted this feature :)
>>>>
>>>> Lessons are produced in 3 formats:
>>>>
>>>> Mobile
>>>> iPhone Micro-Web-Based
>>>> Desktop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's the catch.  The generation task is fairly machine  
>>>> intensive, and
>>>> it might not be concurrency-safe.  I am not looking to break  
>>>> things in
>>>> these two ways right now.  Just looking for phone feedback.  SO  
>>>> PLEASE:
>>>> Pick a small Scripture range.  Don't experiment just for fun yet.   
>>>> I'll
>>>> be working of stability and optimization after things are being  
>>>> produced
>>>> correctly.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea how the web-based app will display on any micro- 
>>>> browser.
>>>>  I tried to use small controls.  Right now we're not displaying the
>>>> pre-rendered images for the webapp.  I'd like to see how the  
>>>> iPhone does
>>>> with UTF-8 Greek and Hebrew.  If we need to, we can switch over to  
>>>> the
>>>> pre-rendered images.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the link.  Again, please be kind to our server and be  
>>>> patient for
>>>> any lesson you ask to generate for more than a couple chapters.   
>>>> It does
>>>> cache requests, so if you ask for the same request, it won't  
>>>> regenerate.
>>>>
>>>> From your phone:
>>>>
>>>> crosswire.org/fc/g
>>>>
>>>> Appreciate any feedback.
>>>>
>>>>    -Troy.
>>>>
>>
>>
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